Post by Rich Z. on Jul 29, 2013 6:55:42 GMT
[7/28/2013 9:30:15 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: Hey Rich!
[7/28/2013 9:30:25 PM] Rich Zamora: hello there
[7/28/2013 9:30:35 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: how's it going?
[7/28/2013 9:30:46 PM] Rich Zamora: good, how are you?
[7/28/2013 9:31:07 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: just dandy--catching up on cyber world
[7/28/2013 9:31:15 PM] Rich Zamora: oh how fun
[7/28/2013 9:31:20 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol indeed!
[7/28/2013 9:31:24 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: tell me about yourself!
[7/28/2013 9:31:30 PM] Rich Zamora: well
[7/28/2013 9:31:38 PM] Rich Zamora: i seem to be the oldest of this tribe...
[7/28/2013 9:31:41 PM] Rich Zamora: LOL
[7/28/2013 9:31:52 PM] Rich Zamora: i'll be right back
[7/28/2013 9:31:57 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: ...do you like being called daddy?
[7/28/2013 9:32:03 PM] Rich Zamora: HAHAHAHAHA
[7/28/2013 9:32:17 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: Just checking what the limits are here
[7/28/2013 9:32:38 PM] Rich Zamora: hold that thought.... ;)brb
[7/28/2013 9:52:43 PM] Rich Zamora: back
[7/28/2013 9:53:03 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: hey!
[7/28/2013 9:53:23 PM] Rich Zamora: the limits does not exist! ----quote from mean girls!
[7/28/2013 9:53:25 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: errrrrm... tell me about yourself?? lol, im very bad at getting to know you stuff
[7/28/2013 9:53:42 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: kk but you are not opposed to being called daddy and quote mean girls, all good signs
[7/28/2013 9:56:27 PM] Rich Zamora: how about you tell me about yourself
[7/28/2013 9:56:44 PM] Rich Zamora: i'm not sure about the daddy thing...i mean depends on what setting....
[7/28/2013 9:56:59 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: otter convention?
[7/28/2013 9:57:30 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol, I am about to start my first year teaching full time, just graduated from school last summer and finished with my credential in june... from CA
[7/28/2013 9:57:39 PM] Rich Zamora: nice
[7/28/2013 9:57:45 PM] Rich Zamora: what grade/subject?
[7/28/2013 9:58:03 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: ill have 10th graders next year, but English
[7/28/2013 9:59:03 PM] Rich Zamora: ah, are you a grammar nazi?
[7/28/2013 9:59:17 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: not at all, i will mock you if you use "like" too often in chatspeak
[7/28/2013 9:59:24 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: but even then I promise it's out of love. lol
[7/28/2013 9:59:30 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: you're near to me!! In NM??
[7/28/2013 9:59:33 PM] Rich Zamora: ok good!
[7/28/2013 9:59:37 PM] Rich Zamora: yes i am
[7/28/2013 9:59:43 PM] Rich Zamora: i'm a graduate student
[7/28/2013 10:00:08 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: studying what and where?
[7/28/2013 10:00:39 PM] Rich Zamora: pursuing my PhD in Clinical Psychology, at New Mexico State University
[7/28/2013 10:00:51 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: how far along are you??
[7/28/2013 10:00:54 PM] Rich Zamora: what part of cali? i used to live in vegas, and visited cali a lot
[7/28/2013 10:01:06 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: nice! I'm in sacramento
[7/28/2013 10:01:10 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: so like an hour north of SF
[7/28/2013 10:01:15 PM] Rich Zamora: this is my last year at NMSU, next year, i start my residency, elsewhere
[7/28/2013 10:01:31 PM] Rich Zamora: i'm applying to some places in cali for residency
[7/28/2013 10:02:07 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: very cool!! why'd you live in vegas?
[7/28/2013 10:02:29 PM] Rich Zamora: oh
[7/28/2013 10:02:34 PM] Rich Zamora: went to HS in las vegas
[7/28/2013 10:02:38 PM] Rich Zamora: and two years of undergrad at UNLV
[7/28/2013 10:02:48 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: how was that??
[7/28/2013 10:02:50 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i love vegas
[7/28/2013 10:02:52 PM] Rich Zamora: it was good
[7/28/2013 10:02:53 PM] Rich Zamora: vegas is fun
[7/28/2013 10:02:58 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: but i imagine growing up there wouldn't be optimum
[7/28/2013 10:03:06 PM] Rich Zamora: it is home for me....my parents still live there
[7/28/2013 10:03:14 PM] Rich Zamora: i didn't grow up there though
[7/28/2013 10:03:24 PM] Rich Zamora: i was born and raised from another country
[7/28/2013 10:03:39 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and which country??
[7/28/2013 10:03:44 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: you're well traveled!
[7/28/2013 10:03:52 PM] Rich Zamora: i wouldn't say that
[7/28/2013 10:03:59 PM] Rich Zamora: but i want to travel more...traveling is fun
[7/28/2013 10:04:12 PM] Rich Zamora: Manila, Philippines
[7/28/2013 10:04:18 PM] Rich Zamora: were you born and raised in california?
[7/28/2013 10:04:20 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: very cool! do you visit often?
[7/28/2013 10:04:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yep! and ahven't been very far outside of it ever
[7/28/2013 10:04:55 PM] Rich Zamora: i wish i could but ever since i went to graduate school, my masters, and now my phd, it has been a challenge to go out of the country....last time i was in the philippines was summer of 2001, i want to go back soon
[7/28/2013 10:05:11 PM] Rich Zamora: i was in texas for my undergrad and oklahoma for my masters
[7/28/2013 10:06:00 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: damn!
[7/28/2013 10:06:05 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: which place do you enjoy most?
[7/28/2013 10:06:08 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: or did you, rather
[7/28/2013 10:07:14 PM] Rich Zamora: hmm
[7/28/2013 10:07:28 PM] Rich Zamora: considering the places i've lived are small towns...with th exception of las vegas
[7/28/2013 10:07:40 PM] Rich Zamora: well i'd say texas, undergrad was the best
[7/28/2013 10:08:14 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: undergrad is always best
[7/28/2013 10:08:29 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i went to berkeley... was the time of my life, but after 4 years I was waaay ready to be done
[7/28/2013 10:08:32 PM] Rich Zamora: yeah, things weren't so complicated back then
[7/28/2013 10:08:45 PM] Rich Zamora: UC Berkely?
[7/28/2013 10:08:57 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: mhm
[7/28/2013 10:09:02 PM] Rich Zamora: great school
[7/28/2013 10:09:20 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yes!! haha, it was. SHITTY town... like a festering pool of homelessness
[7/28/2013 10:09:24 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: but still, charming in a way
[7/28/2013 10:09:29 PM] Rich Zamora: i think i was looking at UC Santa Cruz, UC Irvine, and UC Santa Barbara
[7/28/2013 10:09:36 PM] Rich Zamora: really?
[7/28/2013 10:10:37 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: completely. beautiful, crazy, idealistic place
[7/28/2013 10:11:06 PM] Rich Zamora: i see
[7/28/2013 10:11:38 PM] Rich Zamora: during my masters progra, i was a substitute teacher
[7/28/2013 10:11:56 PM] Rich Zamora: i love teaching, i want to become a professor
[7/28/2013 10:12:04 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: very cool!
[7/28/2013 10:12:17 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: id like to go back to school someday, but teaching at the high school level is fantastic
[7/28/2013 10:12:24 PM] Rich Zamora: i bet
[7/28/2013 10:12:32 PM] Rich Zamora: i'm so ready to be done
[7/28/2013 10:12:39 PM] Rich Zamora: i went straight from undergrad, masters and now phd
[7/28/2013 10:12:43 PM] Rich Zamora: i need a break!!!
[7/28/2013 10:13:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: do you TA while in school?
[7/28/2013 10:14:01 PM] Rich Zamora: yes, i do...i actually teach my own courses now
[7/28/2013 10:14:05 PM] Rich Zamora: well since i enterd the doc program
[7/28/2013 10:14:18 PM] Rich Zamora: i've taught intro to psych, human development, research methods
[7/28/2013 10:14:44 PM] Rich Zamora: and this fall i'm teaching psychology of gender! so excited! my first time teaching it and its a big part of my research interests
[7/28/2013 10:15:14 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: I took a class similar to that in school
[7/28/2013 10:15:31 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: the hwole psychology and marketing of "barbies are for girls and trucks are for boys" thing
[7/28/2013 10:15:43 PM] Rich Zamora: ooooh
[7/28/2013 10:15:45 PM] Rich Zamora: interesting
[7/28/2013 10:16:36 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yeah! it was cool. I didnt take mych psych though. I was an english major and geography minor
[7/28/2013 10:17:17 PM] Rich Zamora: nice so you didn't have to be education major to teach?
[7/28/2013 10:17:27 PM] Rich Zamora: for liscensure purposes
[7/28/2013 10:17:30 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: nope, after BA you go to a credential program
[7/28/2013 10:17:37 PM] Rich Zamora: oh i see
[7/28/2013 10:17:40 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: where you earn your teaching credential and learn how to teach
[7/28/2013 10:17:46 PM] Rich Zamora: do you speak any other languages?
[7/28/2013 10:17:49 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: so i did that at uc davis and finished this past june
[7/28/2013 10:18:00 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: hablo muy poco espanol
[7/28/2013 10:18:00 PM] Rich Zamora: congrats!
[7/28/2013 10:18:11 PM] Rich Zamora: ah, spanish
[7/28/2013 10:18:19 PM] Rich Zamora: i wish i spoke spanish
[7/28/2013 10:18:39 PM] Rich Zamora: i know some...and living in NM (las cruces) it is a borderland so i have picked up on a lot
[7/28/2013 10:18:50 PM] Rich Zamora: but providing therapy in spanish is a high need here so i wish i was bilingual in that sense
[7/28/2013 10:18:55 PM] Rich Zamora: but i speak two other languages
[7/28/2013 10:19:06 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: tagalog annnnd?
[7/28/2013 10:19:45 PM] Rich Zamora: hahaha
[7/28/2013 10:19:51 PM] Rich Zamora: you're good
[7/28/2013 10:20:04 PM] Rich Zamora: American Sign Language
[7/28/2013 10:20:09 PM] Rich Zamora: you have Filipino friends?
[7/28/2013 10:20:15 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i assumed being Filipino!
[7/28/2013 10:20:18 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yesyesyes
[7/28/2013 10:20:28 PM] Rich Zamora: awesome!
[7/28/2013 10:20:34 PM] Rich Zamora: lots of them in berkeley i was told
[7/28/2013 10:20:37 PM] Rich Zamora: well in CA
[7/28/2013 10:21:16 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: totally, lots of folks elect to go to UCs
[7/28/2013 10:21:35 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: which i understand, if youre goign to travel that far for school you want something very multicultural
[7/28/2013 10:21:42 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: nowhere more diverse than the bay
[7/28/2013 10:21:47 PM] Rich Zamora: oh really?
[7/28/2013 10:21:51 PM] Rich Zamora: i think you're biased
[7/28/2013 10:21:52 PM] Rich Zamora: lol
[7/28/2013 10:22:36 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: oh completely
[7/28/2013 10:22:37 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lmao
[7/28/2013 10:22:51 PM] Rich Zamora:
[7/28/2013 10:23:32 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: so why do you do these games mr. professor?
[7/28/2013 10:23:51 PM] Rich Zamora: you'll get extra credit just fine....
[7/28/2013 10:23:56 PM] Rich Zamora:
[7/28/2013 10:24:13 PM] Rich Zamora: well i'm addicted to these shows, survivor and big brother mainly
[7/28/2013 10:24:21 PM] Rich Zamora: i like the social aspect of it....
[7/28/2013 10:24:33 PM] Rich Zamora: here's something i'd disclose to you
[7/28/2013 10:24:37 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: same... i think theres something about the gays that is drawn to these kinda of social competitions
[7/28/2013 10:24:40 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: im assuming your gay btw
[7/28/2013 10:24:45 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: stop me now if not. lol
[7/28/2013 10:24:54 PM] Rich Zamora: i'm one of the six that do not have any previous ties from the people of this game...
[7/28/2013 10:25:03 PM] Rich Zamora: oh and the competition, i like being competitive
[7/28/2013 10:25:15 PM] Rich Zamora: i am gay lol
[7/28/2013 10:25:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: this is survivor: west hollywood
[7/28/2013 10:25:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i swear
[7/28/2013 10:25:32 PM] Rich Zamora: really?
[7/28/2013 10:25:35 PM] Rich Zamora: who else is gay?
[7/28/2013 10:25:53 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: everyone from green team was
[7/28/2013 10:25:56 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol
[7/28/2013 10:25:57 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO
[7/28/2013 10:26:00 PM] Rich Zamora: seriously?
[7/28/2013 10:26:05 PM] Rich Zamora: wow an all gay tribe
[7/28/2013 10:26:07 PM] Rich Zamora: that's awesome
[7/28/2013 10:26:17 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: everyone on yours wasnt!?
[7/28/2013 10:26:30 PM] Rich Zamora: umm
[7/28/2013 10:26:35 PM] Rich Zamora: i think some are
[7/28/2013 10:26:39 PM] Rich Zamora: but i didn't ask
[7/28/2013 10:26:43 PM] Rich Zamora: people just came out to me lol
[7/28/2013 10:26:55 PM] Rich Zamora: so i was saying i'm one of the six newbies here...but
[7/28/2013 10:27:06 PM] Rich Zamora: i've been playing these games since 2001....i stopped for a very long time....
[7/28/2013 10:27:16 PM] Rich Zamora: so i thought i'd give it another try
[7/28/2013 10:27:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: dude, we totally must have crossed paths. I played way too many of these in high school
[7/28/2013 10:27:37 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: then stoped drinking the koolaid for like 5 years
[7/28/2013 10:27:39 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: annnnnd here i am -.-
[7/28/2013 10:27:50 PM] Rich Zamora: here's another personal information about me, i was in a four year relationship and we met through a game
[7/28/2013 10:28:06 PM] Rich Zamora: yes i stopped for five years
[7/28/2013 10:28:11 PM] Rich Zamora: we must have?
[7/28/2013 10:28:24 PM] Rich Zamora: i've never changed my AIM sn....
[7/28/2013 10:28:31 PM] Rich Zamora: richcutie17...ring a bell
[7/28/2013 10:28:51 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: not really, i was always ibecheese or ibecheesy
[7/28/2013 10:28:56 PM] Rich Zamora: hmm
[7/28/2013 10:29:00 PM] Rich Zamora: weird we didnt cross paths
[7/28/2013 10:29:12 PM] Rich Zamora: like do you know the vets. donna
[7/28/2013 10:29:14 PM] Rich Zamora: ?
[7/28/2013 10:29:18 PM] Rich Zamora: lisa, cindy
[7/28/2013 10:29:27 PM] Rich Zamora: those were my days hahahaha
[7/28/2013 10:29:37 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yesyesyes
[7/28/2013 10:29:42 PM] Rich Zamora: omg really?
[7/28/2013 10:29:45 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: jason carver, tyler disley
[7/28/2013 10:29:51 PM] Rich Zamora: yes jason carver!
[7/28/2013 10:29:52 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: amanda, heidi, stacy
[7/28/2013 10:29:55 PM] Rich Zamora: i've met him in person
[7/28/2013 10:29:59 PM] Rich Zamora: and so is cindi
[7/28/2013 10:30:00 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol how was THAT!?
[7/28/2013 10:30:05 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO
[7/28/2013 10:30:08 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i have a quasi standing hatred with carver
[7/28/2013 10:30:16 PM] Rich Zamora: carver and i gooo way back
[7/28/2013 10:30:26 PM] Rich Zamora: you must haec played a game with matt
[7/28/2013 10:30:29 PM] Rich Zamora: do you know madtiger?
[7/28/2013 10:30:41 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yesyesyes
[7/28/2013 10:30:44 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO
[7/28/2013 10:30:48 PM] Rich Zamora: he's my ex...we dated
[7/28/2013 10:30:51 PM] Rich Zamora: for four years
[7/28/2013 10:31:00 PM] Rich Zamora: that's how i ended up in texas
[7/28/2013 10:31:19 PM] Rich Zamora: so you know Tim
[7/28/2013 10:31:35 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: tiiiiiim who played voyeur tim?
[7/28/2013 10:31:41 PM] Rich Zamora: umm like tim O
[7/28/2013 10:31:46 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: oberman??
[7/28/2013 10:31:47 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yes!
[7/28/2013 10:31:48 PM] Rich Zamora: he's from chicago
[7/28/2013 10:31:50 PM] Rich Zamora: yes!
[7/28/2013 10:31:53 PM] Rich Zamora: i've met him in person too
[7/28/2013 10:31:57 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i think im still friends with him on facebook lol
[7/28/2013 10:32:04 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: is met disley in person, not all that impressed
[7/28/2013 10:32:04 PM] Rich Zamora: oh he took me off
[7/28/2013 10:32:08 PM] Rich Zamora: he's such a drama queen
[7/28/2013 10:32:08 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: that was before he was gay
[7/28/2013 10:32:15 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO!!!!
[7/28/2013 10:32:24 PM] Rich Zamora: wait
[7/28/2013 10:32:27 PM] Rich Zamora: taylor is gay now?
[7/28/2013 10:32:45 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: tyler disley
[7/28/2013 10:32:50 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: taylor street ill never know
[7/28/2013 10:32:59 PM] Rich Zamora: oh
[7/28/2013 10:33:04 PM] Rich Zamora: i don't think i know tyler disley
[7/28/2013 10:33:06 PM] Rich Zamora: street i know
[7/28/2013 10:33:33 PM] Rich Zamora: this is awesome
[7/28/2013 10:33:39 PM] Rich Zamora: that we know same folks
[7/28/2013 10:33:45 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: -is- it!?
[7/28/2013 10:33:49 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: its either awesome or way pathetic
[7/28/2013 10:33:49 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lmao
[7/28/2013 10:33:53 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO
[7/28/2013 10:34:01 PM] Rich Zamora: it means you're real
[7/28/2013 10:34:31 PM] Rich Zamora: hey, i have credibility in this area...i'm a psychologist remember, i think this is normal
[7/28/2013 10:34:56 PM] Rich Zamora: do you go by Kurt?
[7/28/2013 10:35:13 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: NO
[7/28/2013 10:35:23 PM] Rich Zamora: ok so you're not that Kurt
[7/28/2013 10:35:25 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and i will scorn you to the fullest extent
[7/28/2013 10:35:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lmao
[7/28/2013 10:35:33 PM] Rich Zamora: i asked because there's a Kurt
[7/28/2013 10:35:39 PM] Rich Zamora: that matt used to talk to me about a lot
[7/28/2013 10:35:57 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: maybe... but i doubt he would call me kurt, i was never very close with him
[7/28/2013 10:36:14 PM] Rich Zamora: oh ok
[7/28/2013 10:36:23 PM] Rich Zamora: i think there's another Kurt
[7/28/2013 10:36:37 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: can we send him anthrax or something?
[7/28/2013 10:37:37 PM] Rich Zamora: so are you an old school org?
[7/28/2013 10:37:44 PM] Rich Zamora: HAHA sure
[7/28/2013 10:38:30 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: ugh god id never admit it publically, but yep
[7/28/2013 10:38:46 PM] Rich Zamora: i mean in this game
[7/28/2013 10:38:49 PM] Rich Zamora: lol
[7/28/2013 10:38:54 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: OH yeah
[7/28/2013 10:38:58 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: my partner is TQ
[7/28/2013 10:39:03 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i thought the world knew that already
[7/28/2013 10:39:08 PM] Rich Zamora: please
[7/28/2013 10:39:16 PM] Rich Zamora: i'm more of an old school ORGer than you!
[7/28/2013 10:39:29 PM] Rich Zamora: never heard of TQ either
[7/28/2013 10:39:36 PM] Rich Zamora: so i'm older than you two
[7/28/2013 10:39:55 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol he and i played in so many together! and havent talked in like 5 years before this
[7/28/2013 10:40:00 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: so its really cool talking to him again
[7/28/2013 10:40:05 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: hes super sweet, youll love him
[7/28/2013 10:40:16 PM] Rich Zamora: really?
[7/28/2013 10:40:20 PM] Rich Zamora: how do you know i'll love him lol
[7/28/2013 10:40:24 PM] Rich Zamora: is he as fun as you?
[7/28/2013 10:40:33 PM] Rich Zamora: or as awesome as you?
[7/28/2013 10:40:56 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: no
[7/28/2013 10:40:58 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: not even close
[7/28/2013 10:41:10 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: but hes a total Carolinian... just a nice southern boy
[7/28/2013 10:41:11 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol
[7/28/2013 10:41:17 PM] Rich Zamora: hmmm
[7/28/2013 10:41:46 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: why didnt you hook it up with a pair!?
[7/28/2013 10:41:52 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: it would be fun to recognize other people
[7/28/2013 10:42:04 PM] Rich Zamora: wait what do you mean hook it up with a pair?
[7/28/2013 10:42:17 PM] Rich Zamora: when i applied to this game?
[7/28/2013 10:42:25 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yeah, didnt sandy ask you?
[7/28/2013 10:42:33 PM] Rich Zamora: sandy approached me...
[7/28/2013 10:42:35 PM] Rich Zamora: but
[7/28/2013 10:42:41 PM] Rich Zamora: never said to apply with someone
[7/28/2013 10:42:50 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: same, he asked me like a day before the game
[7/28/2013 10:42:54 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and so i dusted off my AIM account
[7/28/2013 10:42:57 PM] Rich Zamora: also i've lost touch with most of the ORG world
[7/28/2013 10:43:01 PM] Rich Zamora: mt last game was in 2008
[7/28/2013 10:43:07 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and was like "hey! do you remember me? Wanna play a game?"
[7/28/2013 10:43:07 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol
[7/28/2013 10:43:13 PM] Rich Zamora: and even before 2008 i was slowing donw...ike one game a year
[7/28/2013 10:43:20 PM] Rich Zamora: oh...nice
[7/28/2013 10:43:31 PM] Rich Zamora: i think a lot of my era have moved on
[7/28/2013 10:43:38 PM] Rich Zamora: well
[7/28/2013 10:43:41 PM] Rich Zamora: im not saying you havent
[7/28/2013 10:43:47 PM] Rich Zamora: but honestly ive lost touch
[7/28/2013 10:43:52 PM] Rich Zamora: ive kept in touch with a couple of folks
[7/28/2013 10:43:57 PM] Rich Zamora: grad school kept me busy
[7/28/2013 10:44:00 PM] Rich Zamora: and i was never on AIM
[7/28/2013 10:44:25 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i dont really talk to anyone... but im ok with that
[7/28/2013 10:44:31 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i guess im facebook friends with a couple people still
[7/28/2013 10:44:32 PM] Rich Zamora: yeah
[7/28/2013 10:44:40 PM] Rich Zamora: i got attached to a lot of people and really got hurt by many
[7/28/2013 10:44:51 PM] Rich Zamora: i also didn't like how much time i spent online for these games
[7/28/2013 10:44:56 PM] Rich Zamora: LOL
[7/28/2013 10:45:02 PM] Rich Zamora: i HAD to take a break and time away
[7/28/2013 10:45:38 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol i FEEL YOU
[7/28/2013 10:45:46 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: have you heard of voyeur? it was a webcam based thing
[7/28/2013 10:45:56 PM] Rich Zamora: yes
[7/28/2013 10:45:59 PM] Rich Zamora: ok here's my fame
[7/28/2013 10:46:01 PM] Rich Zamora: survivor webcam
[7/28/2013 10:46:07 PM] Rich Zamora: i was in that...the 4.0
[7/28/2013 10:46:09 PM] Rich Zamora: all man season
[7/28/2013 10:46:13 PM] Rich Zamora: and all-stars
[7/28/2013 10:46:18 PM] Rich Zamora: season never ended
[7/28/2013 10:46:27 PM] Rich Zamora: heard of that series?
[7/28/2013 10:46:38 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: -.- lame and yeah!! i have heard of it, but wasnt a part of the viewing community at all
[7/28/2013 10:46:47 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i did voyeur the summer before college
[7/28/2013 10:46:57 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and like wasted the WHOLE summer looking into a webcam
[7/28/2013 10:47:01 PM] Rich Zamora: i did not watch voyeour
[7/28/2013 10:47:02 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: so i HAD to be donedonedone
[7/28/2013 10:47:10 PM] Rich Zamora: hahha
[7/28/2013 10:47:13 PM] Rich Zamora: you became famous there huh
[7/28/2013 10:47:16 PM] Rich Zamora: did you go far?
[7/28/2013 10:47:50 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: eh like 7th i think, so decently far
[7/28/2013 10:47:52 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: it was fun!
[7/28/2013 10:47:54 PM] Rich Zamora: you're good!
[7/28/2013 10:47:57 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: but just way too much trouble
[7/28/2013 10:48:03 PM] Rich Zamora: yeah survivor webcam was the best...webcam challenges and such
[7/28/2013 10:48:09 PM] Rich Zamora: too much time~!
[7/28/2013 10:48:19 PM] Rich Zamora: Kurtis, i stayed up 24 horus before just to win an endurance challenge
[7/28/2013 10:48:29 PM] Rich Zamora: boy, those are 24 hours of my life i could never get back!!!!
[7/28/2013 10:48:34 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: LMFAO
[7/28/2013 10:48:37 PM] Rich Zamora: so sad!
[7/28/2013 10:48:39 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: okay you win in the crazy department
[7/28/2013 10:48:44 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO
[7/28/2013 10:48:46 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: did you win the challenge at least?
[7/28/2013 10:48:51 PM] Rich Zamora: yes!
[7/28/2013 10:48:55 PM] Rich Zamora: of course
[7/28/2013 10:48:57 PM] Rich Zamora: lol
[7/28/2013 10:49:03 PM] Rich Zamora: i took the bitches out
[7/28/2013 10:49:26 PM] Rich Zamora: well i'm glad that there's someone who gets it
[7/28/2013 10:49:57 PM] Rich Zamora: i felt like a newbie in this game....but then people who i was playing with (mainly jermin) did not know what was going on
[7/28/2013 10:50:10 PM] Rich Zamora: i was thinking the quality of players have gone down
[7/28/2013 10:50:18 PM] Rich Zamora: back then, everyone was competitive and active
[7/28/2013 10:50:44 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i think you're seeing more there in retrospect... i felt toally different i felt like "wow! this is the exact same except the spelling errors are different" lol
[7/28/2013 10:51:01 PM] Rich Zamora: and the performance of people was making me mad...i was just thinking how players get by by these challenge performances
[7/28/2013 10:51:03 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO!!!
[7/28/2013 10:51:38 PM] Rich Zamora: but i was just hoping to meet more people that are cool
[7/28/2013 10:51:50 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: YOU MET ME
[7/28/2013 10:51:54 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: goal accomplished
[7/28/2013 10:51:57 PM] Rich Zamora: hahahahha
[7/28/2013 10:51:58 PM] Rich Zamora: really?
[7/28/2013 10:52:33 PM] Rich Zamora: we'll have to see if you stay loyal and obedient
[7/28/2013 10:52:42 PM] Rich Zamora:
[7/28/2013 10:53:07 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: I sit, stay, and shake
[7/28/2013 10:53:16 PM] Rich Zamora: do you roll over too?
[7/28/2013 10:53:17 PM] Rich Zamora: lol
[7/28/2013 10:53:46 PM] Rich Zamora: well on a serious note, i'\m glad i got to met you and in a new tribe that seems more active
[7/28/2013 10:53:50 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i may need some help
[7/28/2013 10:53:59 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: shut up, your tribe kicked ass my tribe was AWFUL
[7/28/2013 10:54:01 PM] Rich Zamora: oh i'll help you and train you
[7/28/2013 10:54:02 PM] Rich Zamora:
[7/28/2013 10:54:19 PM] Rich Zamora: Kurtis---that tribe...the old la arana was a FAILURE
[7/28/2013 10:54:41 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: wwwwhhhaaaaatever
[7/28/2013 10:54:49 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: dude we've has self votes both tribals
[7/28/2013 10:54:56 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and almost zero activity from anyone other than me and john
[7/28/2013 10:55:02 PM] Rich Zamora: our one and only TC it was self-votes all over the place
[7/28/2013 10:55:08 PM] Rich Zamora: and to be honest, i was somewhat annoyed
[7/28/2013 10:55:11 PM] Rich Zamora: that sandy had players like that??
[7/28/2013 10:55:52 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: SAME and then he was these STUPID challenegs that even active players wouldn't want to participate in
[7/28/2013 10:56:49 PM] Rich Zamora: oh please
[7/28/2013 10:57:03 PM] Rich Zamora: why sign up then
[7/28/2013 10:57:04 PM] Rich Zamora: lol
[7/28/2013 10:57:09 PM] Rich Zamora: that just anoys me
[7/28/2013 10:57:22 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: rich
[7/28/2013 10:57:39 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: "find a picture... type in a URL of nearly TEN THOUSAND choices"
[7/28/2013 10:57:44 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: are you KIDDING!?
[7/28/2013 10:57:47 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO
[7/28/2013 10:57:51 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and there was no "a" in that anagram, just being real
[7/28/2013 10:57:52 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lmao
[7/28/2013 10:57:52 PM] Rich Zamora: ok so i was pathetic
[7/28/2013 10:58:18 PM] Rich Zamora: i was distibuting which numbers to cover with my tribemates
[7/28/2013 10:58:22 PM] Rich Zamora: god that was pathetic
[7/28/2013 10:58:27 PM] Rich Zamora: and people were like there must be some logic to this
[7/28/2013 10:58:29 PM] Rich Zamora: there has to be clues
[7/28/2013 10:58:40 PM] Rich Zamora: i was like "it's random, just start entering numbers in order!!!!"
[7/28/2013 10:58:54 PM] Rich Zamora: ok like that but maybe louder
[7/28/2013 10:59:07 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i know... and they were like "oh, and if you find all 18 of your faces too..." WHAT THE FUCK
[7/28/2013 10:59:08 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol
[7/28/2013 10:59:14 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i blew a cyber gasket
[7/28/2013 10:59:18 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO!
[7/28/2013 10:59:24 PM] Rich Zamora: i thought you blew a guy
[7/28/2013 10:59:29 PM] Rich Zamora: hahahahaha
[7/28/2013 11:00:28 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i did that too
[7/28/2013 11:00:30 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO!
[7/28/2013 11:00:32 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: my boyfriend just got back from canada
[7/28/2013 11:00:35 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: VERY good sex
[7/28/2013 11:00:57 PM] Rich Zamora: you're funny
[7/28/2013 11:01:30 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: if I'm joking i'll throw in an "lol" or something as a landmarker
[7/28/2013 11:01:31 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: it was AMAZING
[7/28/2013 11:01:40 PM] Rich Zamora: hmmm
[7/28/2013 11:02:00 PM] Rich Zamora: (mm)
[7/28/2013 11:02:22 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: jealousy gets you no where rich
[7/28/2013 11:02:31 PM] Rich Zamora: me, jealous? never
[7/28/2013 11:02:57 PM] Rich Zamora: ok
[7/28/2013 11:03:00 PM] Rich Zamora: only sometimes
[7/28/2013 11:03:09 PM] Rich Zamora: but not this time
[7/28/2013 11:03:28 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: are you seeing anyone?
[7/28/2013 11:03:31 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: whats your love story?
[7/28/2013 11:04:40 PM] Rich Zamora: no, single right now
[7/28/2013 11:04:45 PM] Rich Zamora: ex broke my heart
[7/28/2013 11:04:46 PM] Rich Zamora: in feb
[7/28/2013 11:05:09 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: ouch, so still fresh?
[7/28/2013 11:05:13 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: how'd it happen
[7/28/2013 11:05:14 PM] Rich Zamora: umm
[7/28/2013 11:05:26 PM] Rich Zamora: we were together for a year and two months
[7/28/2013 11:05:38 PM] Rich Zamora: actually, i don't know if its still fresh
[7/28/2013 11:05:40 PM] Rich Zamora: i thought it wasn't anymore
[7/28/2013 11:05:59 PM] Rich Zamora: but i got tipsy three days ago
[7/28/2013 11:06:10 PM] Rich Zamora: and was talking to my best friend for two hours and cried about my ex
[7/28/2013 11:06:13 PM] Rich Zamora: so...who knows
[7/28/2013 11:06:41 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: no dude... a relationship like that (over a year) will be fresh for a while... i hate how all consuming heartbreak is
[7/28/2013 11:06:47 PM] Rich Zamora: but it's not as bad as it was from march to april...i cried everyday after i got hom from a long day of seeing clients, teaching, and taking classes
[7/28/2013 11:07:04 PM] Rich Zamora: it was just so bad...
[7/28/2013 11:07:58 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: ugh its so hard to function... like go to class and work
[7/28/2013 11:08:02 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: with something liek that on your mind
[7/28/2013 11:08:03 PM] Rich Zamora: i know
[7/28/2013 11:08:11 PM] Rich Zamora: it was really hard, not sure how i made it, but i am resilient
[7/28/2013 11:08:44 PM] Rich Zamora: it is so ironic
[7/28/2013 11:08:56 PM] Rich Zamora: my research focuses on gay relationships
[7/28/2013 11:09:04 PM] Rich Zamora: but anyways, i thought he was the one you know?
[7/28/2013 11:09:35 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: so anything dramatic happen or he just ended it?
[7/28/2013 11:09:51 PM] Rich Zamora: well
[7/28/2013 11:10:02 PM] Rich Zamora: we were working on stuff
[7/28/2013 11:10:11 PM] Rich Zamora: but he said he didn't feel like he was in a relationship anymore
[7/28/2013 11:10:29 PM] Rich Zamora: here's another thing, he's a mechanical engineer
[7/28/2013 11:10:32 PM] Rich Zamora: and i'm a psychologist....
[7/28/2013 11:10:34 PM] Rich Zamora: go figure
[7/28/2013 11:12:08 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol emotional IQ of 50 vs. 200?
[7/28/2013 11:12:14 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO
[7/28/2013 11:12:17 PM] Rich Zamora: see!!! you get it!
[7/28/2013 11:12:30 PM] Rich Zamora: emotional intelligenve exist!
[7/28/2013 11:12:50 PM] Rich Zamora: he actually was not bad compared to a typical engineer, he had some emotional awareness, maybe 51 instead of 50....
[7/28/2013 11:13:05 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: wow, a winner! lol
[7/28/2013 11:13:10 PM] Rich Zamora: LOL!
[7/28/2013 11:14:19 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: are you drinking!?
[7/28/2013 11:14:25 PM] Rich Zamora: right now?
[7/28/2013 11:14:30 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: well yes
[7/28/2013 11:14:31 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol
[7/28/2013 11:14:32 PM] Rich Zamora: no...? why
[7/28/2013 11:14:35 PM] Rich Zamora: do i sound drunk
[7/28/2013 11:14:39 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: idk i feel like we all should
[7/28/2013 11:14:41 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: no, do i!?
[7/28/2013 11:14:44 PM] Rich Zamora: no...lol
[7/28/2013 11:14:48 PM] Rich Zamora: are you drinking?
[7/28/2013 11:15:13 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yes!
[7/28/2013 11:15:20 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i thought i said that earlier
[7/28/2013 11:15:22 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: mehbag
[7/28/2013 11:15:24 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: my bad* wow
[7/28/2013 11:15:30 PM] Rich Zamora: no you didn't ..
[7/28/2013 11:15:34 PM] Rich Zamora: what are you drinking?
[7/28/2013 11:15:55 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: wine, im a cabernet boy
[7/28/2013 11:15:59 PM] Rich Zamora: i love win
[7/28/2013 11:16:04 PM] Rich Zamora: we have some great wineries in the area
[7/28/2013 11:16:10 PM] Rich Zamora: but i know there are some great ones in cali too
[7/28/2013 11:16:37 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yesyesyes, but i general go for whichever has the most clever name out of the 2-7 dollar bottles. lol
[7/28/2013 11:16:47 PM] Rich Zamora: hahaha
[7/28/2013 11:16:54 PM] Rich Zamora: that's a good way to choose
[7/28/2013 11:17:04 PM] Rich Zamora: i go with the most alcohol levvel
[7/28/2013 11:17:05 PM] Rich Zamora: lol
[7/28/2013 11:17:15 PM] Rich Zamora: trader joe;s wine!!!!
[7/28/2013 11:17:19 PM] Rich Zamora: cheap and good!
[7/28/2013 11:17:36 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yes! do you have grocery store outlets?? lol
[7/28/2013 11:17:55 PM] Rich Zamora: there are some here
[7/28/2013 11:18:00 PM] Rich Zamora: but no trader joes nearby me
[7/28/2013 11:18:05 PM] Rich Zamora: the nearest is in tucson
[7/28/2013 11:18:29 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: try GSO--soooo cheap and funny brand names
[7/28/2013 11:18:51 PM] Rich Zamora: GSO?
[7/28/2013 11:19:07 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: grocery store outlet! lol
[7/28/2013 11:19:27 PM] Rich Zamora: oh
[7/28/2013 11:19:28 PM] Rich Zamora: LOL
[7/28/2013 11:19:38 PM] Rich Zamora: haha, i have to look for one
[7/28/2013 11:19:44 PM] Rich Zamora: we dont have that here in NM i dont think
[7/28/2013 11:20:14 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: missing out!!
[7/28/2013 11:20:22 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: im drinking Cleavage Creek right now
[7/28/2013 11:20:22 PM] Rich Zamora: i bet haha
[7/28/2013 11:20:25 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: busty woman on the front
[7/28/2013 11:20:27 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: 3 bucks!
[7/28/2013 11:20:30 PM] Rich Zamora: oooh
[7/28/2013 11:20:35 PM] Rich Zamora: next time my friend goes back to cali
[7/28/2013 11:20:39 PM] Rich Zamora: i'll asl him to get me some
[7/28/2013 11:20:50 PM] Rich Zamora: i have a friend here who goes to San Diego on a regular basis
[7/28/2013 11:20:55 PM] Rich Zamora: and brings me trader joes wine
[7/28/2013 11:21:08 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: nice!!
[7/28/2013 11:21:12 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: everyone is online!
[7/28/2013 11:21:13 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: well
[7/28/2013 11:21:15 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lots of poeple
[7/28/2013 11:21:17 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: billy and tj got on!
[7/28/2013 11:21:32 PM] Rich Zamora: let's have a chat
[7/28/2013 11:21:34 PM] Rich Zamora: room
[7/28/2013 11:21:38 PM] Rich Zamora: do people still do that?
[7/28/2013 11:23:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: umm... idk... i dont want to look like the awkward gangly kids at the dance...
[7/28/2013 11:23:28 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: idk im in! lol
[7/28/2013 11:23:31 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO!
[7/28/2013 11:31:07 PM] Rich Zamora: how long have you beein in a relationship?
[7/28/2013 11:31:55 PM] Rich Zamora: you have to partiicpate in my dissertation research once i start collecting data
[7/28/2013 11:31:56 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: just over a couple years... maybe 2.25 years?
[7/28/2013 11:32:01 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol id love to!
[7/28/2013 11:32:01 PM] Rich Zamora: that's good!
[7/28/2013 11:32:12 PM] Rich Zamora: i'll tell you more about it later
[7/28/2013 11:32:24 PM] Rich Zamora: i'm proposing my research this august so once i get that done i'll start data collection
[7/28/2013 11:33:11 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: good--keep me around and i'll be at your beckon call
[7/28/2013 11:34:51 PM] Rich Zamora: lol
[7/28/2013 11:35:02 PM] Rich Zamora: keep you around where?
[7/28/2013 11:35:16 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: the foot of the bed??
[7/28/2013 11:37:05 PM] Rich Zamora: maybe
[7/28/2013 11:37:16 PM] Rich Zamora: just sit
[7/28/2013 11:37:20 PM] Rich Zamora: and play nice
[7/28/2013 11:37:24 PM] Rich Zamora: that's an order
[7/28/2013 11:37:33 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: mk, i get restless though!
[7/28/2013 11:38:32 PM] Rich Zamora: well you can be creative
[7/28/2013 11:38:56 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: theres only so many things to play with!
[7/28/2013 11:40:08 PM] Rich Zamora: hey
[7/28/2013 11:40:09 PM] Rich Zamora: not my problem
[7/28/2013 11:40:35 PM] Kurtis Roddewig:
[7/28/2013 11:41:25 PM] Rich Zamora: aww don't pout. not your face
[7/28/2013 11:41:52 PM] Kurtis Roddewig:
[7/28/2013 11:41:54 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: fixed it!
[7/28/2013 11:42:42 PM] Rich Zamora: good
[7/28/2013 11:42:47 PM] Rich Zamora: that suits you more
[7/28/2013 11:43:35 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: you have a nice smile
[7/28/2013 11:43:40 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: (refers to skype picture)
[7/28/2013 11:43:44 PM] Rich Zamora: oh...
[7/28/2013 11:43:50 PM] Rich Zamora: thanks
[7/28/2013 11:43:52 PM] Rich Zamora: i get shy
[7/28/2013 11:43:53 PM] Rich Zamora: anyways
[7/28/2013 11:44:28 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol whatever
[7/28/2013 11:44:30 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: you do not
[7/28/2013 11:44:53 PM] Rich Zamora: yes i do haha
[7/28/2013 11:44:57 PM] Rich Zamora: you have no idea
[7/28/2013 11:45:01 PM] Rich Zamora: but thank you for the compliment
[7/28/2013 11:47:02 PM] Rich Zamora: i worked with high schoolers before
[7/28/2013 11:47:09 PM] Rich Zamora: i did some clinical hours at a high school one semester
[7/28/2013 11:47:17 PM] Rich Zamora: mostly did groups and prevention skills on bullying
[7/28/2013 11:47:27 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: thats interesting!
[7/28/2013 11:47:39 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: that was one of my motivations for becoming a teacher
[7/28/2013 11:47:55 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: to really reenforce a system of justice and equality in a school
[7/28/2013 11:48:06 PM] Rich Zamora: YES
[7/28/2013 11:48:12 PM] Rich Zamora: #socialjustice
[7/28/2013 11:48:14 PM] Rich Zamora: !!!!
[7/28/2013 11:49:12 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: its been fairly successful so far, have way too much fun with the kids
[7/28/2013 11:49:20 PM] Rich Zamora: nice!
[7/28/2013 11:49:30 PM] Rich Zamora: i think it's good that you love what you do
[7/28/2013 11:49:39 PM] Rich Zamora: it's one component that makes a job fun
[7/28/2013 11:49:44 PM] Rich Zamora: being passionate about it
[7/28/2013 11:50:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: so far!! only my second group of classes this fall
[7/28/2013 11:50:28 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: wish me luck
[7/28/2013 11:50:52 PM] Rich Zamora: you'll be fine
[7/28/2013 11:50:57 PM] Rich Zamora: regulation hotties like you do well
[7/28/2013 11:51:06 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol i have to dress very "up"
[7/28/2013 11:51:10 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: to distance myself from the kids
[7/28/2013 11:51:58 PM] Rich Zamora: of course
[7/28/2013 11:52:19 PM] Rich Zamora: when i taught intro to psych in 2010 my first year as a doc student
[7/28/2013 11:52:27 PM] Rich Zamora: they taught i was a freshmen
[7/28/2013 11:52:32 PM] Rich Zamora: then i saw how young they looked!
[7/28/2013 11:52:36 PM] Rich Zamora: kids now a days!
[7/28/2013 11:52:57 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i will be young and beautiful forever
[7/28/2013 11:52:59 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: (mantra)
[7/28/2013 11:53:04 PM] Rich Zamora: oooh
[7/28/2013 11:53:06 PM] Rich Zamora: look at you
[7/28/2013 11:53:25 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: although, south east asian geners are much better for youthfulness
[7/28/2013 11:53:27 PM] Rich Zamora: i'll be young looking forever...i'm asian lol
[7/28/2013 11:53:34 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: my boyfirned is a japanese/chinese hybrid
[7/28/2013 11:53:37 PM] Rich Zamora: i was thinking the same thing!
[7/28/2013 11:53:42 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and looks 12 at times i swear
[7/28/2013 11:54:04 PM] Rich Zamora: i like how you used the word hybrid
[7/28/2013 11:54:28 PM] Rich Zamora: are you white/hispanic mix?
[7/28/2013 11:54:42 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: nono just white
[7/28/2013 11:54:45 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: que aburrito, si?
[7/28/2013 11:55:26 PM] Rich Zamora: no intiende
[7/28/2013 11:55:39 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: im boring lol
[7/28/2013 11:55:42 PM] Rich Zamora: HAHAHA
[7/28/2013 11:55:45 PM] Rich Zamora: please
[7/28/2013 11:55:47 PM] Rich Zamora: you're cultured
[7/28/2013 11:56:32 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: ONLY thanks to my Filipino boys!!
[7/28/2013 11:56:33 PM] Kurtis Roddewig:
[7/28/2013 11:56:44 PM] Rich Zamora: and your japanese/chinese hybrid
[7/28/2013 11:56:45 PM] Rich Zamora: hahahahaha
[7/28/2013 11:57:28 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol!! hes whiter-acting than me i promise
[7/28/2013 11:57:39 PM] Rich Zamora: oh one of those
[7/28/2013 11:57:41 PM] Rich Zamora: lol jk
[7/28/2013 11:59:06 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol hes a sweetie, lemme find pictures
[7/28/2013 11:59:14 PM] Rich Zamora: yes of you two
[12:00:00 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: www.facebook.com/kurtis.roddewig
[12:00:05 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: well thats just my facebook, but thats us!
[12:03:24 AM] Rich Zamora: OMG
[12:03:27 AM] Rich Zamora: you guys are the cutest!
[12:03:33 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: WE AREEEEEE
[12:03:36 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol
[12:03:39 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: its all i have, i gloat
[12:04:11 AM] Rich Zamora: LOL
[12:04:16 AM] Rich Zamora: whatever
[12:04:28 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: dontchu whatever me!!
[12:05:25 AM] Rich Zamora: oh please
[12:05:32 AM] Rich Zamora: whatcha gonna do gurl
[12:05:36 AM] Rich Zamora: ala aaryn
[12:05:55 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i havent watched for like a week!
[12:05:58 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: whod she nominate?
[12:09:24 AM] Rich Zamora: howard and spencer
[12:10:07 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: oh good!!
[12:10:14 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i want all the chicks to stay around
[12:10:29 AM] Rich Zamora: elissa, helen, and candice all the way for me
[12:10:39 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: lmao i love gina marie
[12:10:42 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: shes an effing mess
[12:11:10 AM] Rich Zamora: that she is
[12:11:40 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: but i still want her to be happy... like she met a nice, smart, attractive guy
[12:11:48 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: and she must know how much of a train wreck she is
[12:11:52 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: and she got attached and cant let go
[12:11:53 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: endearing
[12:12:12 AM] Rich Zamora: well
[12:12:16 AM] Rich Zamora: can you relate?
[12:12:20 AM] Rich Zamora: kidding haha
[12:12:49 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i can be like... alanis moresett wreckage level at times
[12:12:50 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol
[12:16:09 AM] Rich Zamora: i bet
[12:16:14 AM] Rich Zamora: we all have those days lol
[12:16:32 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: or months... years... something like that
[12:16:33 AM] Kurtis Roddewig:
[12:17:29 AM] Rich Zamora: yes, i agree
[12:17:36 AM] Rich Zamora: i deal wth the mess up follks haha
[12:17:40 AM] Rich Zamora: so you want to hear something nerdy?
[12:18:04 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: always
[12:18:17 AM] Rich Zamora: ok
[12:18:21 AM] Rich Zamora: so this is nerd alert
[12:18:47 AM] Rich Zamora: the big picture of what i want to do for my research line...i want to come up with a theory or a model for coupls therapy for gay couples
[12:18:53 AM] Rich Zamora: because
[12:19:11 AM] Rich Zamora: all of the research in relationships with gay couples are based on heterosexual models
[12:19:12 AM] Rich Zamora: and theories
[12:19:35 AM] Rich Zamora: and our nation is becoming more non traditional
[12:19:46 AM] Rich Zamora: i'm putting a prevention twist on my research
[12:20:01 AM] Rich Zamora: also---there are so many different factors in gay men relationships compared to heterosexual coupls
[12:20:07 AM] Rich Zamora: like level of outness,
[12:20:15 AM] Rich Zamora: amongst other things
[12:20:18 AM] Rich Zamora: so yeah
[12:20:34 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: ok so youre going to have couples, and what are you testing for?
[12:20:39 AM] Rich Zamora: oh
[12:20:45 AM] Rich Zamora: well notfor my dissertation
[12:20:52 AM] Rich Zamora: that's the long run big picture
[12:21:01 AM] Rich Zamora: i'm working on pieces to the puzzle
[12:21:11 AM] Rich Zamora: my masters thesis was on love styles and romantic attachment on gay men
[12:21:21 AM] Rich Zamora: it's published!
[12:21:40 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: oh really! give me a 3 senetence summary of your findings
[12:21:51 AM] Rich Zamora: for my dissertation, i want to look at the role of respect and gay specific stressors and how it affects relationship satisfaction of gay men in romantic relationships
[12:23:21 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: which kinds of stressors are you looking at? like the same things as heteorsexual counples and comparing them?
[12:23:48 AM] Rich Zamora: oh im not comparic
[12:23:54 AM] Rich Zamora: because that's the literature have been
[12:23:58 AM] Rich Zamora: and i'm stemming away from that
[12:24:03 AM] Rich Zamora: here's an abstract of my thesis
[12:24:13 AM] Rich Zamora: The purpose of this study was to explore the relationship between love styles and romantic attachment styles in self-identified gay men. Participants (n = 72) completed the Experiences in Close Relationships - Revised (Fraley, Walker, & Brennan, 2000) and the Love Attitudes Scale Short Form (LAS-SF; Hendrick, Hendrick, & Dicke 1998). Results indicated that all six love styles were significantly predictive of anxious and avoidant romantic attachment. A series of multiple regressions were performed using love styles as predictors of both avoidant and anxious attachment styles separately. Examination of the Beta weights indicated that Eros and Mania Love styles were unique predictors of anxious and avoidant romantic attachment for the gay men in this sample. Implications for counseling are highlighted.
[12:24:35 AM] Rich Zamora: Eros love styles are passionate lovers and Mania are manic lovers, those who are possesive
[12:24:55 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol so outlook not fabulous for gay men
[12:25:26 AM] Rich Zamora: The results of the regression analyses indicate that gay men who reported more constant reassurance of being loved (Mania) were less likely to be anxious in their romantic relationships. In addition, gay men who identified themselves as more passionate or erotic (Eros) were more likely to be avoidant in their romantic relationships. Both of these findings diverge from previous research with two heterosexual samples (Fricker & Moore, 2002; Levy & Davis, 1988). Gay men who were more involved with “game-playing” love (Ludus) were less likely to be avoidant in their relationships, which is in contrast to previous studies with undergraduate heterosexual individuals (Fricker & Moore, 2002; Levy & Davis, 1988). While some researchers have found Agape love to be related to avoidant attachment in heterosexual individuals (Levy & Davis, 1988), Agape love was not related to avoidant attachment with this sample. However, Agape love was related to anxious attachment in this sample. Therefore, gay men who were more selfless and altruistic in their love styles were less likely to feel anxious in romantic relationships.
[12:25:35 AM] Rich Zamora: there's some discussion in lamence terms
[12:25:48 AM] Rich Zamora: that's the problem, more of the research have focused on negative thigns on gay relationships
[12:25:56 AM] Rich Zamora: but my focus is on positive psychology
[12:26:02 AM] Rich Zamora: sorry if this is boring you
[12:26:38 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: no! not at all
[12:26:46 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: its fun to think of my relationship in the shadow of this
[12:27:00 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: we used to be very paranoid... welll me more paranoid and he more possessive
[12:27:05 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: but have fallen into a more confortable routine
[12:27:23 AM] Rich Zamora: oh good
[12:27:48 AM] Rich Zamora: i mean good that you're comfortable now
[12:28:16 AM] Rich Zamora: but the theory of respect towards your partner is under studied
[12:28:27 AM] Rich Zamora: and i think that respect plays a big role
[12:28:33 AM] Rich Zamora: well that's my theory right now
[12:28:39 AM] Rich Zamora: my research findings could be a bust
[12:29:06 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: totally... which is hard in the light of genered relationships that usually showcase the girl being much less respected than the guy, at least in media
[12:29:18 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i dont know ive done zer oresearch fo course but thought a lot about these things
[12:29:29 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: because i want this to work out, i want to be happy with jeremy for the rest of our lives
[12:29:33 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: which is scary but exciting
[12:29:58 AM] Rich Zamora: YES exactly
[12:30:13 AM] Rich Zamora: you're good!
[12:30:25 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: oh yeah!?
[12:30:52 AM] Rich Zamora: for my dissertation
[12:31:01 AM] Rich Zamora: to answer your question about gay specific stressors
[12:31:03 AM] Rich Zamora: Stress related to heterosexism in one’s environment will be measured using the Measure of Gay-Related Stress (MOGS; Lewis, Derlega, Berndt, Morris, & Rose, 2002). The MOGS is a 39-item measure that assesses gay men and lesbians level of stress that is due to their sexual orientation. For the purpose of the study, only 14 items are going to be used that are in the three subscales called: Family Reaction, Family Reactions to my Partner, and Visibility with Family and Friends.
[12:31:12 AM] Rich Zamora: that's how i am defining it
[12:31:33 AM] Rich Zamora: so like family suport and friends support
[12:31:38 AM] Rich Zamora: that could add to stress in the relationship
[12:31:40 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: okay so the added pressure of being "out" and being in a relationship
[12:31:45 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: so the public aspect of the relationship
[12:31:49 AM] Rich Zamora: or could be a buffer if they are supportive
[12:31:49 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: that makes sense
[12:31:54 AM] Rich Zamora: YES
[12:31:59 AM] Rich Zamora: you're smart lol
[12:32:10 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: I IZ SO SMARTZ
[12:33:35 AM] Rich Zamora: hahaha
[12:33:42 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: are you looking at infedelity rates between the gays?
[12:33:56 AM] Rich Zamora: not with this research project
[12:33:58 AM] Rich Zamora: i want to! lol
[12:34:01 AM] Rich Zamora: for future studies but
[12:34:05 AM] Rich Zamora: i ahve to graduate hahahaha
[12:34:20 AM] Rich Zamora: but i did a research on monogamous and non monogamous relationships
[12:34:21 AM] Rich Zamora: with gay men
[12:34:35 AM] Rich Zamora: it is really interesting
[12:34:39 AM] Rich Zamora: we are getting ready to publish that one
[12:34:39 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: god open relationships seem like a train wrech
[12:34:42 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: wreck
[12:34:44 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: waiting to happen
[12:34:46 AM] Rich Zamora: irt is
[12:34:50 AM] Rich Zamora: but you know whats interesting
[12:35:01 AM] Rich Zamora: those who both have agreed to have that kind of relationship and communicate it to each other
[12:35:03 AM] Rich Zamora: were happier
[12:35:15 AM] Rich Zamora: than those who keep it a secret from each other
[12:35:17 AM] Rich Zamora: we did interviews
[12:35:24 AM] Rich Zamora: it was so interesting
[12:35:34 AM] Rich Zamora: because the key was..communciation and reasons for doing it
[12:35:38 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i could see how that would work, honesty and trust is so imprtant, but i bet truly monogomous pairings were much happier
[12:35:43 AM] Rich Zamora: YES!
[12:35:56 AM] Rich Zamora: so we controlled for their communication pattern and honesty levels
[12:36:00 AM] Rich Zamora: it was so interesting
[12:36:40 AM] Rich Zamora: im such a nerd
[12:36:42 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: honestly this is a super important area to be explored, implications of studies like these will have an effect on the way elementary school teachers address gener and relationships
[12:36:51 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i like these kinds of things too, it works here
[12:36:59 AM] Rich Zamora: yes!!!
[12:37:10 AM] Rich Zamora: and what i want to do too is
[12:37:15 AM] Rich Zamora: to create prevention programs
[12:37:30 AM] Rich Zamora: that could make gay romantic relationships healthier
[12:37:54 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: that would be good, but i also thing more overall exposure in the media will help that
[12:38:06 AM] Rich Zamora: i can't wait till i finish school and start my career because ill have more time and more resourcs for such things
[12:38:13 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: because by definition a gay relationship has not been "normal" so it makes sense for these weird trends to develop
[12:38:20 AM] Rich Zamora: I KNOW!!!!
[12:38:26 AM] Rich Zamora: this whole not normal and normal thing
[12:38:32 AM] Rich Zamora: we're slowly improviing
[12:38:35 AM] Rich Zamora: but we need to move faster
[12:38:58 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i feel like its cascading at this point
[12:39:15 AM] Rich Zamora: it really depends though geographically
[12:39:26 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: have you ever been to the Pink Dot thing in the Philippines
[12:39:33 AM] Rich Zamora: believe it or not, when i was living in oklahoma, i experienced prejudice from the gay community
[12:39:38 AM] Rich Zamora: and some internalized homophobia and racism
[12:39:49 AM] Rich Zamora: no i have nevver been
[12:40:01 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: it looks so cute, i want to go sometime (/aside)
[12:40:13 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: and yes... i dont think i ever want to visit the South lol
[12:40:34 AM] Rich Zamora: so when i was living in oklahoma, i went to this gay organization, they were all white, and obviously i am not, i did not feel welcomed and some folks came to me and told me that they would never date soeone otside their race because "thats just wrong"
[12:40:47 AM] Rich Zamora: i was so surprised!
[12:40:54 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: LOL isnt it funny?? When you're accepted how easy it is to lose perspective
[12:41:12 AM] Rich Zamora: but i want to look at the role of culture in interracial dating in lesbian adn gay relationship[s
[12:41:17 AM] Rich Zamora: YES!
[12:41:25 AM] Rich Zamora: i was like ..."seriously?"
[12:41:30 AM] Rich Zamora: from the gay commmunity, it was so weird
[12:41:33 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: good! me and jerm can help you there too
[12:41:52 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i really hate the "fad" or "trend" of the rice queen/potato queen
[12:41:52 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: thing
[12:42:01 AM] Rich Zamora: but so remember, i was telling you i dated Matt,,not sure if you knew but he's Deaf
[12:42:08 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: thats going right now... it really devalues and belittles my and jerms relationship among other gay people
[12:42:15 AM] Rich Zamora: OMG my ex called me a potato queen lol
[12:42:24 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: even though i havent ever dated and asian person prior to him and really just love him because he is him
[12:42:36 AM] Rich Zamora: yeah i understand
[12:42:40 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: like i see other white-asian couples and get kind of upset
[12:42:45 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: because i know in a way it devalues mine
[12:42:47 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: which is stupid
[12:42:51 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: but true
[12:42:56 AM] Rich Zamora: eah i know
[12:43:11 AM] Rich Zamora: but what lead me to become interested in understanding culture in relationships because
[12:43:23 AM] Rich Zamora: when i was dating Matt I had to understand the Deaf culture
[12:43:39 AM] Rich Zamora: and how it was different from both my filipino culture
[12:43:46 AM] Rich Zamora: and Hearing culture! i becaome so aware
[12:43:59 AM] Rich Zamora: it was so interesting
[12:44:03 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i bet... were you fluent in sign language prior to dating him or did you learn as you went?
[12:44:23 AM] Rich Zamora: no, i was not fluent
[12:44:29 AM] Rich Zamora: we literally used pen and paper
[12:44:39 AM] Rich Zamora: and he read lips but he had to learn how i spoke to learn my ways
[12:44:52 AM] Rich Zamora: but i became fluent eventually
[12:45:02 AM] Rich Zamora: i also worked with Deaf kids
[12:45:37 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i bet that wouldve been tough!
[12:46:00 AM] Rich Zamora: yeah especially when communication is one of the key components of a successful relationship
[12:46:08 AM] Rich Zamora: definitely a learning experience
[12:46:39 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: kk we need to talk lots more about this because i do NOT think its nerdy, these are things i think about regularly
[12:46:44 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: im goign to go to bed for now though
[12:46:51 AM] Rich Zamora: good night kurtis
[12:46:59 AM] Rich Zamora: yes, it is good to chat about this
[12:47:02 AM] Rich Zamora: i like learning lol
[12:47:14 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: I LIKE YOUR FACE
[12:47:16 AM] Rich Zamora: great meeting you
[12:47:19 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol kk nightnight
[12:47:21 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: you too!
I knew we'd get along just fine!! He seems really nice, good to see folks who played ORG back in the days!
[7/28/2013 9:30:25 PM] Rich Zamora: hello there
[7/28/2013 9:30:35 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: how's it going?
[7/28/2013 9:30:46 PM] Rich Zamora: good, how are you?
[7/28/2013 9:31:07 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: just dandy--catching up on cyber world
[7/28/2013 9:31:15 PM] Rich Zamora: oh how fun
[7/28/2013 9:31:20 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol indeed!
[7/28/2013 9:31:24 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: tell me about yourself!
[7/28/2013 9:31:30 PM] Rich Zamora: well
[7/28/2013 9:31:38 PM] Rich Zamora: i seem to be the oldest of this tribe...
[7/28/2013 9:31:41 PM] Rich Zamora: LOL
[7/28/2013 9:31:52 PM] Rich Zamora: i'll be right back
[7/28/2013 9:31:57 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: ...do you like being called daddy?
[7/28/2013 9:32:03 PM] Rich Zamora: HAHAHAHAHA
[7/28/2013 9:32:17 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: Just checking what the limits are here
[7/28/2013 9:32:38 PM] Rich Zamora: hold that thought.... ;)brb
[7/28/2013 9:52:43 PM] Rich Zamora: back
[7/28/2013 9:53:03 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: hey!
[7/28/2013 9:53:23 PM] Rich Zamora: the limits does not exist! ----quote from mean girls!
[7/28/2013 9:53:25 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: errrrrm... tell me about yourself?? lol, im very bad at getting to know you stuff
[7/28/2013 9:53:42 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: kk but you are not opposed to being called daddy and quote mean girls, all good signs
[7/28/2013 9:56:27 PM] Rich Zamora: how about you tell me about yourself
[7/28/2013 9:56:44 PM] Rich Zamora: i'm not sure about the daddy thing...i mean depends on what setting....
[7/28/2013 9:56:59 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: otter convention?
[7/28/2013 9:57:30 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol, I am about to start my first year teaching full time, just graduated from school last summer and finished with my credential in june... from CA
[7/28/2013 9:57:39 PM] Rich Zamora: nice
[7/28/2013 9:57:45 PM] Rich Zamora: what grade/subject?
[7/28/2013 9:58:03 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: ill have 10th graders next year, but English
[7/28/2013 9:59:03 PM] Rich Zamora: ah, are you a grammar nazi?
[7/28/2013 9:59:17 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: not at all, i will mock you if you use "like" too often in chatspeak
[7/28/2013 9:59:24 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: but even then I promise it's out of love. lol
[7/28/2013 9:59:30 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: you're near to me!! In NM??
[7/28/2013 9:59:33 PM] Rich Zamora: ok good!
[7/28/2013 9:59:37 PM] Rich Zamora: yes i am
[7/28/2013 9:59:43 PM] Rich Zamora: i'm a graduate student
[7/28/2013 10:00:08 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: studying what and where?
[7/28/2013 10:00:39 PM] Rich Zamora: pursuing my PhD in Clinical Psychology, at New Mexico State University
[7/28/2013 10:00:51 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: how far along are you??
[7/28/2013 10:00:54 PM] Rich Zamora: what part of cali? i used to live in vegas, and visited cali a lot
[7/28/2013 10:01:06 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: nice! I'm in sacramento
[7/28/2013 10:01:10 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: so like an hour north of SF
[7/28/2013 10:01:15 PM] Rich Zamora: this is my last year at NMSU, next year, i start my residency, elsewhere
[7/28/2013 10:01:31 PM] Rich Zamora: i'm applying to some places in cali for residency
[7/28/2013 10:02:07 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: very cool!! why'd you live in vegas?
[7/28/2013 10:02:29 PM] Rich Zamora: oh
[7/28/2013 10:02:34 PM] Rich Zamora: went to HS in las vegas
[7/28/2013 10:02:38 PM] Rich Zamora: and two years of undergrad at UNLV
[7/28/2013 10:02:48 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: how was that??
[7/28/2013 10:02:50 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i love vegas
[7/28/2013 10:02:52 PM] Rich Zamora: it was good
[7/28/2013 10:02:53 PM] Rich Zamora: vegas is fun
[7/28/2013 10:02:58 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: but i imagine growing up there wouldn't be optimum
[7/28/2013 10:03:06 PM] Rich Zamora: it is home for me....my parents still live there
[7/28/2013 10:03:14 PM] Rich Zamora: i didn't grow up there though
[7/28/2013 10:03:24 PM] Rich Zamora: i was born and raised from another country
[7/28/2013 10:03:39 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and which country??
[7/28/2013 10:03:44 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: you're well traveled!
[7/28/2013 10:03:52 PM] Rich Zamora: i wouldn't say that
[7/28/2013 10:03:59 PM] Rich Zamora: but i want to travel more...traveling is fun
[7/28/2013 10:04:12 PM] Rich Zamora: Manila, Philippines
[7/28/2013 10:04:18 PM] Rich Zamora: were you born and raised in california?
[7/28/2013 10:04:20 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: very cool! do you visit often?
[7/28/2013 10:04:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yep! and ahven't been very far outside of it ever
[7/28/2013 10:04:55 PM] Rich Zamora: i wish i could but ever since i went to graduate school, my masters, and now my phd, it has been a challenge to go out of the country....last time i was in the philippines was summer of 2001, i want to go back soon
[7/28/2013 10:05:11 PM] Rich Zamora: i was in texas for my undergrad and oklahoma for my masters
[7/28/2013 10:06:00 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: damn!
[7/28/2013 10:06:05 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: which place do you enjoy most?
[7/28/2013 10:06:08 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: or did you, rather
[7/28/2013 10:07:14 PM] Rich Zamora: hmm
[7/28/2013 10:07:28 PM] Rich Zamora: considering the places i've lived are small towns...with th exception of las vegas
[7/28/2013 10:07:40 PM] Rich Zamora: well i'd say texas, undergrad was the best
[7/28/2013 10:08:14 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: undergrad is always best
[7/28/2013 10:08:29 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i went to berkeley... was the time of my life, but after 4 years I was waaay ready to be done
[7/28/2013 10:08:32 PM] Rich Zamora: yeah, things weren't so complicated back then
[7/28/2013 10:08:45 PM] Rich Zamora: UC Berkely?
[7/28/2013 10:08:57 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: mhm
[7/28/2013 10:09:02 PM] Rich Zamora: great school
[7/28/2013 10:09:20 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yes!! haha, it was. SHITTY town... like a festering pool of homelessness
[7/28/2013 10:09:24 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: but still, charming in a way
[7/28/2013 10:09:29 PM] Rich Zamora: i think i was looking at UC Santa Cruz, UC Irvine, and UC Santa Barbara
[7/28/2013 10:09:36 PM] Rich Zamora: really?
[7/28/2013 10:10:37 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: completely. beautiful, crazy, idealistic place
[7/28/2013 10:11:06 PM] Rich Zamora: i see
[7/28/2013 10:11:38 PM] Rich Zamora: during my masters progra, i was a substitute teacher
[7/28/2013 10:11:56 PM] Rich Zamora: i love teaching, i want to become a professor
[7/28/2013 10:12:04 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: very cool!
[7/28/2013 10:12:17 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: id like to go back to school someday, but teaching at the high school level is fantastic
[7/28/2013 10:12:24 PM] Rich Zamora: i bet
[7/28/2013 10:12:32 PM] Rich Zamora: i'm so ready to be done
[7/28/2013 10:12:39 PM] Rich Zamora: i went straight from undergrad, masters and now phd
[7/28/2013 10:12:43 PM] Rich Zamora: i need a break!!!
[7/28/2013 10:13:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: do you TA while in school?
[7/28/2013 10:14:01 PM] Rich Zamora: yes, i do...i actually teach my own courses now
[7/28/2013 10:14:05 PM] Rich Zamora: well since i enterd the doc program
[7/28/2013 10:14:18 PM] Rich Zamora: i've taught intro to psych, human development, research methods
[7/28/2013 10:14:44 PM] Rich Zamora: and this fall i'm teaching psychology of gender! so excited! my first time teaching it and its a big part of my research interests
[7/28/2013 10:15:14 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: I took a class similar to that in school
[7/28/2013 10:15:31 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: the hwole psychology and marketing of "barbies are for girls and trucks are for boys" thing
[7/28/2013 10:15:43 PM] Rich Zamora: ooooh
[7/28/2013 10:15:45 PM] Rich Zamora: interesting
[7/28/2013 10:16:36 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yeah! it was cool. I didnt take mych psych though. I was an english major and geography minor
[7/28/2013 10:17:17 PM] Rich Zamora: nice so you didn't have to be education major to teach?
[7/28/2013 10:17:27 PM] Rich Zamora: for liscensure purposes
[7/28/2013 10:17:30 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: nope, after BA you go to a credential program
[7/28/2013 10:17:37 PM] Rich Zamora: oh i see
[7/28/2013 10:17:40 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: where you earn your teaching credential and learn how to teach
[7/28/2013 10:17:46 PM] Rich Zamora: do you speak any other languages?
[7/28/2013 10:17:49 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: so i did that at uc davis and finished this past june
[7/28/2013 10:18:00 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: hablo muy poco espanol
[7/28/2013 10:18:00 PM] Rich Zamora: congrats!
[7/28/2013 10:18:11 PM] Rich Zamora: ah, spanish
[7/28/2013 10:18:19 PM] Rich Zamora: i wish i spoke spanish
[7/28/2013 10:18:39 PM] Rich Zamora: i know some...and living in NM (las cruces) it is a borderland so i have picked up on a lot
[7/28/2013 10:18:50 PM] Rich Zamora: but providing therapy in spanish is a high need here so i wish i was bilingual in that sense
[7/28/2013 10:18:55 PM] Rich Zamora: but i speak two other languages
[7/28/2013 10:19:06 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: tagalog annnnd?
[7/28/2013 10:19:45 PM] Rich Zamora: hahaha
[7/28/2013 10:19:51 PM] Rich Zamora: you're good
[7/28/2013 10:20:04 PM] Rich Zamora: American Sign Language
[7/28/2013 10:20:09 PM] Rich Zamora: you have Filipino friends?
[7/28/2013 10:20:15 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i assumed being Filipino!
[7/28/2013 10:20:18 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yesyesyes
[7/28/2013 10:20:28 PM] Rich Zamora: awesome!
[7/28/2013 10:20:34 PM] Rich Zamora: lots of them in berkeley i was told
[7/28/2013 10:20:37 PM] Rich Zamora: well in CA
[7/28/2013 10:21:16 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: totally, lots of folks elect to go to UCs
[7/28/2013 10:21:35 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: which i understand, if youre goign to travel that far for school you want something very multicultural
[7/28/2013 10:21:42 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: nowhere more diverse than the bay
[7/28/2013 10:21:47 PM] Rich Zamora: oh really?
[7/28/2013 10:21:51 PM] Rich Zamora: i think you're biased
[7/28/2013 10:21:52 PM] Rich Zamora: lol
[7/28/2013 10:22:36 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: oh completely
[7/28/2013 10:22:37 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lmao
[7/28/2013 10:22:51 PM] Rich Zamora:
[7/28/2013 10:23:32 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: so why do you do these games mr. professor?
[7/28/2013 10:23:51 PM] Rich Zamora: you'll get extra credit just fine....
[7/28/2013 10:23:56 PM] Rich Zamora:
[7/28/2013 10:24:13 PM] Rich Zamora: well i'm addicted to these shows, survivor and big brother mainly
[7/28/2013 10:24:21 PM] Rich Zamora: i like the social aspect of it....
[7/28/2013 10:24:33 PM] Rich Zamora: here's something i'd disclose to you
[7/28/2013 10:24:37 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: same... i think theres something about the gays that is drawn to these kinda of social competitions
[7/28/2013 10:24:40 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: im assuming your gay btw
[7/28/2013 10:24:45 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: stop me now if not. lol
[7/28/2013 10:24:54 PM] Rich Zamora: i'm one of the six that do not have any previous ties from the people of this game...
[7/28/2013 10:25:03 PM] Rich Zamora: oh and the competition, i like being competitive
[7/28/2013 10:25:15 PM] Rich Zamora: i am gay lol
[7/28/2013 10:25:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: this is survivor: west hollywood
[7/28/2013 10:25:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i swear
[7/28/2013 10:25:32 PM] Rich Zamora: really?
[7/28/2013 10:25:35 PM] Rich Zamora: who else is gay?
[7/28/2013 10:25:53 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: everyone from green team was
[7/28/2013 10:25:56 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol
[7/28/2013 10:25:57 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO
[7/28/2013 10:26:00 PM] Rich Zamora: seriously?
[7/28/2013 10:26:05 PM] Rich Zamora: wow an all gay tribe
[7/28/2013 10:26:07 PM] Rich Zamora: that's awesome
[7/28/2013 10:26:17 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: everyone on yours wasnt!?
[7/28/2013 10:26:30 PM] Rich Zamora: umm
[7/28/2013 10:26:35 PM] Rich Zamora: i think some are
[7/28/2013 10:26:39 PM] Rich Zamora: but i didn't ask
[7/28/2013 10:26:43 PM] Rich Zamora: people just came out to me lol
[7/28/2013 10:26:55 PM] Rich Zamora: so i was saying i'm one of the six newbies here...but
[7/28/2013 10:27:06 PM] Rich Zamora: i've been playing these games since 2001....i stopped for a very long time....
[7/28/2013 10:27:16 PM] Rich Zamora: so i thought i'd give it another try
[7/28/2013 10:27:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: dude, we totally must have crossed paths. I played way too many of these in high school
[7/28/2013 10:27:37 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: then stoped drinking the koolaid for like 5 years
[7/28/2013 10:27:39 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: annnnnd here i am -.-
[7/28/2013 10:27:50 PM] Rich Zamora: here's another personal information about me, i was in a four year relationship and we met through a game
[7/28/2013 10:28:06 PM] Rich Zamora: yes i stopped for five years
[7/28/2013 10:28:11 PM] Rich Zamora: we must have?
[7/28/2013 10:28:24 PM] Rich Zamora: i've never changed my AIM sn....
[7/28/2013 10:28:31 PM] Rich Zamora: richcutie17...ring a bell
[7/28/2013 10:28:51 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: not really, i was always ibecheese or ibecheesy
[7/28/2013 10:28:56 PM] Rich Zamora: hmm
[7/28/2013 10:29:00 PM] Rich Zamora: weird we didnt cross paths
[7/28/2013 10:29:12 PM] Rich Zamora: like do you know the vets. donna
[7/28/2013 10:29:14 PM] Rich Zamora: ?
[7/28/2013 10:29:18 PM] Rich Zamora: lisa, cindy
[7/28/2013 10:29:27 PM] Rich Zamora: those were my days hahahaha
[7/28/2013 10:29:37 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yesyesyes
[7/28/2013 10:29:42 PM] Rich Zamora: omg really?
[7/28/2013 10:29:45 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: jason carver, tyler disley
[7/28/2013 10:29:51 PM] Rich Zamora: yes jason carver!
[7/28/2013 10:29:52 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: amanda, heidi, stacy
[7/28/2013 10:29:55 PM] Rich Zamora: i've met him in person
[7/28/2013 10:29:59 PM] Rich Zamora: and so is cindi
[7/28/2013 10:30:00 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol how was THAT!?
[7/28/2013 10:30:05 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO
[7/28/2013 10:30:08 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i have a quasi standing hatred with carver
[7/28/2013 10:30:16 PM] Rich Zamora: carver and i gooo way back
[7/28/2013 10:30:26 PM] Rich Zamora: you must haec played a game with matt
[7/28/2013 10:30:29 PM] Rich Zamora: do you know madtiger?
[7/28/2013 10:30:41 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yesyesyes
[7/28/2013 10:30:44 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO
[7/28/2013 10:30:48 PM] Rich Zamora: he's my ex...we dated
[7/28/2013 10:30:51 PM] Rich Zamora: for four years
[7/28/2013 10:31:00 PM] Rich Zamora: that's how i ended up in texas
[7/28/2013 10:31:19 PM] Rich Zamora: so you know Tim
[7/28/2013 10:31:35 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: tiiiiiim who played voyeur tim?
[7/28/2013 10:31:41 PM] Rich Zamora: umm like tim O
[7/28/2013 10:31:46 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: oberman??
[7/28/2013 10:31:47 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yes!
[7/28/2013 10:31:48 PM] Rich Zamora: he's from chicago
[7/28/2013 10:31:50 PM] Rich Zamora: yes!
[7/28/2013 10:31:53 PM] Rich Zamora: i've met him in person too
[7/28/2013 10:31:57 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i think im still friends with him on facebook lol
[7/28/2013 10:32:04 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: is met disley in person, not all that impressed
[7/28/2013 10:32:04 PM] Rich Zamora: oh he took me off
[7/28/2013 10:32:08 PM] Rich Zamora: he's such a drama queen
[7/28/2013 10:32:08 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: that was before he was gay
[7/28/2013 10:32:15 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO!!!!
[7/28/2013 10:32:24 PM] Rich Zamora: wait
[7/28/2013 10:32:27 PM] Rich Zamora: taylor is gay now?
[7/28/2013 10:32:45 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: tyler disley
[7/28/2013 10:32:50 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: taylor street ill never know
[7/28/2013 10:32:59 PM] Rich Zamora: oh
[7/28/2013 10:33:04 PM] Rich Zamora: i don't think i know tyler disley
[7/28/2013 10:33:06 PM] Rich Zamora: street i know
[7/28/2013 10:33:33 PM] Rich Zamora: this is awesome
[7/28/2013 10:33:39 PM] Rich Zamora: that we know same folks
[7/28/2013 10:33:45 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: -is- it!?
[7/28/2013 10:33:49 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: its either awesome or way pathetic
[7/28/2013 10:33:49 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lmao
[7/28/2013 10:33:53 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO
[7/28/2013 10:34:01 PM] Rich Zamora: it means you're real
[7/28/2013 10:34:31 PM] Rich Zamora: hey, i have credibility in this area...i'm a psychologist remember, i think this is normal
[7/28/2013 10:34:56 PM] Rich Zamora: do you go by Kurt?
[7/28/2013 10:35:13 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: NO
[7/28/2013 10:35:23 PM] Rich Zamora: ok so you're not that Kurt
[7/28/2013 10:35:25 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and i will scorn you to the fullest extent
[7/28/2013 10:35:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lmao
[7/28/2013 10:35:33 PM] Rich Zamora: i asked because there's a Kurt
[7/28/2013 10:35:39 PM] Rich Zamora: that matt used to talk to me about a lot
[7/28/2013 10:35:57 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: maybe... but i doubt he would call me kurt, i was never very close with him
[7/28/2013 10:36:14 PM] Rich Zamora: oh ok
[7/28/2013 10:36:23 PM] Rich Zamora: i think there's another Kurt
[7/28/2013 10:36:37 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: can we send him anthrax or something?
[7/28/2013 10:37:37 PM] Rich Zamora: so are you an old school org?
[7/28/2013 10:37:44 PM] Rich Zamora: HAHA sure
[7/28/2013 10:38:30 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: ugh god id never admit it publically, but yep
[7/28/2013 10:38:46 PM] Rich Zamora: i mean in this game
[7/28/2013 10:38:49 PM] Rich Zamora: lol
[7/28/2013 10:38:54 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: OH yeah
[7/28/2013 10:38:58 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: my partner is TQ
[7/28/2013 10:39:03 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i thought the world knew that already
[7/28/2013 10:39:08 PM] Rich Zamora: please
[7/28/2013 10:39:16 PM] Rich Zamora: i'm more of an old school ORGer than you!
[7/28/2013 10:39:29 PM] Rich Zamora: never heard of TQ either
[7/28/2013 10:39:36 PM] Rich Zamora: so i'm older than you two
[7/28/2013 10:39:55 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol he and i played in so many together! and havent talked in like 5 years before this
[7/28/2013 10:40:00 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: so its really cool talking to him again
[7/28/2013 10:40:05 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: hes super sweet, youll love him
[7/28/2013 10:40:16 PM] Rich Zamora: really?
[7/28/2013 10:40:20 PM] Rich Zamora: how do you know i'll love him lol
[7/28/2013 10:40:24 PM] Rich Zamora: is he as fun as you?
[7/28/2013 10:40:33 PM] Rich Zamora: or as awesome as you?
[7/28/2013 10:40:56 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: no
[7/28/2013 10:40:58 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: not even close
[7/28/2013 10:41:10 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: but hes a total Carolinian... just a nice southern boy
[7/28/2013 10:41:11 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol
[7/28/2013 10:41:17 PM] Rich Zamora: hmmm
[7/28/2013 10:41:46 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: why didnt you hook it up with a pair!?
[7/28/2013 10:41:52 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: it would be fun to recognize other people
[7/28/2013 10:42:04 PM] Rich Zamora: wait what do you mean hook it up with a pair?
[7/28/2013 10:42:17 PM] Rich Zamora: when i applied to this game?
[7/28/2013 10:42:25 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yeah, didnt sandy ask you?
[7/28/2013 10:42:33 PM] Rich Zamora: sandy approached me...
[7/28/2013 10:42:35 PM] Rich Zamora: but
[7/28/2013 10:42:41 PM] Rich Zamora: never said to apply with someone
[7/28/2013 10:42:50 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: same, he asked me like a day before the game
[7/28/2013 10:42:54 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and so i dusted off my AIM account
[7/28/2013 10:42:57 PM] Rich Zamora: also i've lost touch with most of the ORG world
[7/28/2013 10:43:01 PM] Rich Zamora: mt last game was in 2008
[7/28/2013 10:43:07 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and was like "hey! do you remember me? Wanna play a game?"
[7/28/2013 10:43:07 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol
[7/28/2013 10:43:13 PM] Rich Zamora: and even before 2008 i was slowing donw...ike one game a year
[7/28/2013 10:43:20 PM] Rich Zamora: oh...nice
[7/28/2013 10:43:31 PM] Rich Zamora: i think a lot of my era have moved on
[7/28/2013 10:43:38 PM] Rich Zamora: well
[7/28/2013 10:43:41 PM] Rich Zamora: im not saying you havent
[7/28/2013 10:43:47 PM] Rich Zamora: but honestly ive lost touch
[7/28/2013 10:43:52 PM] Rich Zamora: ive kept in touch with a couple of folks
[7/28/2013 10:43:57 PM] Rich Zamora: grad school kept me busy
[7/28/2013 10:44:00 PM] Rich Zamora: and i was never on AIM
[7/28/2013 10:44:25 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i dont really talk to anyone... but im ok with that
[7/28/2013 10:44:31 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i guess im facebook friends with a couple people still
[7/28/2013 10:44:32 PM] Rich Zamora: yeah
[7/28/2013 10:44:40 PM] Rich Zamora: i got attached to a lot of people and really got hurt by many
[7/28/2013 10:44:51 PM] Rich Zamora: i also didn't like how much time i spent online for these games
[7/28/2013 10:44:56 PM] Rich Zamora: LOL
[7/28/2013 10:45:02 PM] Rich Zamora: i HAD to take a break and time away
[7/28/2013 10:45:38 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol i FEEL YOU
[7/28/2013 10:45:46 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: have you heard of voyeur? it was a webcam based thing
[7/28/2013 10:45:56 PM] Rich Zamora: yes
[7/28/2013 10:45:59 PM] Rich Zamora: ok here's my fame
[7/28/2013 10:46:01 PM] Rich Zamora: survivor webcam
[7/28/2013 10:46:07 PM] Rich Zamora: i was in that...the 4.0
[7/28/2013 10:46:09 PM] Rich Zamora: all man season
[7/28/2013 10:46:13 PM] Rich Zamora: and all-stars
[7/28/2013 10:46:18 PM] Rich Zamora: season never ended
[7/28/2013 10:46:27 PM] Rich Zamora: heard of that series?
[7/28/2013 10:46:38 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: -.- lame and yeah!! i have heard of it, but wasnt a part of the viewing community at all
[7/28/2013 10:46:47 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i did voyeur the summer before college
[7/28/2013 10:46:57 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and like wasted the WHOLE summer looking into a webcam
[7/28/2013 10:47:01 PM] Rich Zamora: i did not watch voyeour
[7/28/2013 10:47:02 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: so i HAD to be donedonedone
[7/28/2013 10:47:10 PM] Rich Zamora: hahha
[7/28/2013 10:47:13 PM] Rich Zamora: you became famous there huh
[7/28/2013 10:47:16 PM] Rich Zamora: did you go far?
[7/28/2013 10:47:50 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: eh like 7th i think, so decently far
[7/28/2013 10:47:52 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: it was fun!
[7/28/2013 10:47:54 PM] Rich Zamora: you're good!
[7/28/2013 10:47:57 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: but just way too much trouble
[7/28/2013 10:48:03 PM] Rich Zamora: yeah survivor webcam was the best...webcam challenges and such
[7/28/2013 10:48:09 PM] Rich Zamora: too much time~!
[7/28/2013 10:48:19 PM] Rich Zamora: Kurtis, i stayed up 24 horus before just to win an endurance challenge
[7/28/2013 10:48:29 PM] Rich Zamora: boy, those are 24 hours of my life i could never get back!!!!
[7/28/2013 10:48:34 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: LMFAO
[7/28/2013 10:48:37 PM] Rich Zamora: so sad!
[7/28/2013 10:48:39 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: okay you win in the crazy department
[7/28/2013 10:48:44 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO
[7/28/2013 10:48:46 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: did you win the challenge at least?
[7/28/2013 10:48:51 PM] Rich Zamora: yes!
[7/28/2013 10:48:55 PM] Rich Zamora: of course
[7/28/2013 10:48:57 PM] Rich Zamora: lol
[7/28/2013 10:49:03 PM] Rich Zamora: i took the bitches out
[7/28/2013 10:49:26 PM] Rich Zamora: well i'm glad that there's someone who gets it
[7/28/2013 10:49:57 PM] Rich Zamora: i felt like a newbie in this game....but then people who i was playing with (mainly jermin) did not know what was going on
[7/28/2013 10:50:10 PM] Rich Zamora: i was thinking the quality of players have gone down
[7/28/2013 10:50:18 PM] Rich Zamora: back then, everyone was competitive and active
[7/28/2013 10:50:44 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i think you're seeing more there in retrospect... i felt toally different i felt like "wow! this is the exact same except the spelling errors are different" lol
[7/28/2013 10:51:01 PM] Rich Zamora: and the performance of people was making me mad...i was just thinking how players get by by these challenge performances
[7/28/2013 10:51:03 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO!!!
[7/28/2013 10:51:38 PM] Rich Zamora: but i was just hoping to meet more people that are cool
[7/28/2013 10:51:50 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: YOU MET ME
[7/28/2013 10:51:54 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: goal accomplished
[7/28/2013 10:51:57 PM] Rich Zamora: hahahahha
[7/28/2013 10:51:58 PM] Rich Zamora: really?
[7/28/2013 10:52:33 PM] Rich Zamora: we'll have to see if you stay loyal and obedient
[7/28/2013 10:52:42 PM] Rich Zamora:
[7/28/2013 10:53:07 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: I sit, stay, and shake
[7/28/2013 10:53:16 PM] Rich Zamora: do you roll over too?
[7/28/2013 10:53:17 PM] Rich Zamora: lol
[7/28/2013 10:53:46 PM] Rich Zamora: well on a serious note, i'\m glad i got to met you and in a new tribe that seems more active
[7/28/2013 10:53:50 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i may need some help
[7/28/2013 10:53:59 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: shut up, your tribe kicked ass my tribe was AWFUL
[7/28/2013 10:54:01 PM] Rich Zamora: oh i'll help you and train you
[7/28/2013 10:54:02 PM] Rich Zamora:
[7/28/2013 10:54:19 PM] Rich Zamora: Kurtis---that tribe...the old la arana was a FAILURE
[7/28/2013 10:54:41 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: wwwwhhhaaaaatever
[7/28/2013 10:54:49 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: dude we've has self votes both tribals
[7/28/2013 10:54:56 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and almost zero activity from anyone other than me and john
[7/28/2013 10:55:02 PM] Rich Zamora: our one and only TC it was self-votes all over the place
[7/28/2013 10:55:08 PM] Rich Zamora: and to be honest, i was somewhat annoyed
[7/28/2013 10:55:11 PM] Rich Zamora: that sandy had players like that??
[7/28/2013 10:55:52 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: SAME and then he was these STUPID challenegs that even active players wouldn't want to participate in
[7/28/2013 10:56:49 PM] Rich Zamora: oh please
[7/28/2013 10:57:03 PM] Rich Zamora: why sign up then
[7/28/2013 10:57:04 PM] Rich Zamora: lol
[7/28/2013 10:57:09 PM] Rich Zamora: that just anoys me
[7/28/2013 10:57:22 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: rich
[7/28/2013 10:57:39 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: "find a picture... type in a URL of nearly TEN THOUSAND choices"
[7/28/2013 10:57:44 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: are you KIDDING!?
[7/28/2013 10:57:47 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO
[7/28/2013 10:57:51 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and there was no "a" in that anagram, just being real
[7/28/2013 10:57:52 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lmao
[7/28/2013 10:57:52 PM] Rich Zamora: ok so i was pathetic
[7/28/2013 10:58:18 PM] Rich Zamora: i was distibuting which numbers to cover with my tribemates
[7/28/2013 10:58:22 PM] Rich Zamora: god that was pathetic
[7/28/2013 10:58:27 PM] Rich Zamora: and people were like there must be some logic to this
[7/28/2013 10:58:29 PM] Rich Zamora: there has to be clues
[7/28/2013 10:58:40 PM] Rich Zamora: i was like "it's random, just start entering numbers in order!!!!"
[7/28/2013 10:58:54 PM] Rich Zamora: ok like that but maybe louder
[7/28/2013 10:59:07 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i know... and they were like "oh, and if you find all 18 of your faces too..." WHAT THE FUCK
[7/28/2013 10:59:08 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol
[7/28/2013 10:59:14 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i blew a cyber gasket
[7/28/2013 10:59:18 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO!
[7/28/2013 10:59:24 PM] Rich Zamora: i thought you blew a guy
[7/28/2013 10:59:29 PM] Rich Zamora: hahahahaha
[7/28/2013 11:00:28 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i did that too
[7/28/2013 11:00:30 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO!
[7/28/2013 11:00:32 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: my boyfriend just got back from canada
[7/28/2013 11:00:35 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: VERY good sex
[7/28/2013 11:00:57 PM] Rich Zamora: you're funny
[7/28/2013 11:01:30 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: if I'm joking i'll throw in an "lol" or something as a landmarker
[7/28/2013 11:01:31 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: it was AMAZING
[7/28/2013 11:01:40 PM] Rich Zamora: hmmm
[7/28/2013 11:02:00 PM] Rich Zamora: (mm)
[7/28/2013 11:02:22 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: jealousy gets you no where rich
[7/28/2013 11:02:31 PM] Rich Zamora: me, jealous? never
[7/28/2013 11:02:57 PM] Rich Zamora: ok
[7/28/2013 11:03:00 PM] Rich Zamora: only sometimes
[7/28/2013 11:03:09 PM] Rich Zamora: but not this time
[7/28/2013 11:03:28 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: are you seeing anyone?
[7/28/2013 11:03:31 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: whats your love story?
[7/28/2013 11:04:40 PM] Rich Zamora: no, single right now
[7/28/2013 11:04:45 PM] Rich Zamora: ex broke my heart
[7/28/2013 11:04:46 PM] Rich Zamora: in feb
[7/28/2013 11:05:09 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: ouch, so still fresh?
[7/28/2013 11:05:13 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: how'd it happen
[7/28/2013 11:05:14 PM] Rich Zamora: umm
[7/28/2013 11:05:26 PM] Rich Zamora: we were together for a year and two months
[7/28/2013 11:05:38 PM] Rich Zamora: actually, i don't know if its still fresh
[7/28/2013 11:05:40 PM] Rich Zamora: i thought it wasn't anymore
[7/28/2013 11:05:59 PM] Rich Zamora: but i got tipsy three days ago
[7/28/2013 11:06:10 PM] Rich Zamora: and was talking to my best friend for two hours and cried about my ex
[7/28/2013 11:06:13 PM] Rich Zamora: so...who knows
[7/28/2013 11:06:41 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: no dude... a relationship like that (over a year) will be fresh for a while... i hate how all consuming heartbreak is
[7/28/2013 11:06:47 PM] Rich Zamora: but it's not as bad as it was from march to april...i cried everyday after i got hom from a long day of seeing clients, teaching, and taking classes
[7/28/2013 11:07:04 PM] Rich Zamora: it was just so bad...
[7/28/2013 11:07:58 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: ugh its so hard to function... like go to class and work
[7/28/2013 11:08:02 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: with something liek that on your mind
[7/28/2013 11:08:03 PM] Rich Zamora: i know
[7/28/2013 11:08:11 PM] Rich Zamora: it was really hard, not sure how i made it, but i am resilient
[7/28/2013 11:08:44 PM] Rich Zamora: it is so ironic
[7/28/2013 11:08:56 PM] Rich Zamora: my research focuses on gay relationships
[7/28/2013 11:09:04 PM] Rich Zamora: but anyways, i thought he was the one you know?
[7/28/2013 11:09:35 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: so anything dramatic happen or he just ended it?
[7/28/2013 11:09:51 PM] Rich Zamora: well
[7/28/2013 11:10:02 PM] Rich Zamora: we were working on stuff
[7/28/2013 11:10:11 PM] Rich Zamora: but he said he didn't feel like he was in a relationship anymore
[7/28/2013 11:10:29 PM] Rich Zamora: here's another thing, he's a mechanical engineer
[7/28/2013 11:10:32 PM] Rich Zamora: and i'm a psychologist....
[7/28/2013 11:10:34 PM] Rich Zamora: go figure
[7/28/2013 11:12:08 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol emotional IQ of 50 vs. 200?
[7/28/2013 11:12:14 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO
[7/28/2013 11:12:17 PM] Rich Zamora: see!!! you get it!
[7/28/2013 11:12:30 PM] Rich Zamora: emotional intelligenve exist!
[7/28/2013 11:12:50 PM] Rich Zamora: he actually was not bad compared to a typical engineer, he had some emotional awareness, maybe 51 instead of 50....
[7/28/2013 11:13:05 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: wow, a winner! lol
[7/28/2013 11:13:10 PM] Rich Zamora: LOL!
[7/28/2013 11:14:19 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: are you drinking!?
[7/28/2013 11:14:25 PM] Rich Zamora: right now?
[7/28/2013 11:14:30 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: well yes
[7/28/2013 11:14:31 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol
[7/28/2013 11:14:32 PM] Rich Zamora: no...? why
[7/28/2013 11:14:35 PM] Rich Zamora: do i sound drunk
[7/28/2013 11:14:39 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: idk i feel like we all should
[7/28/2013 11:14:41 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: no, do i!?
[7/28/2013 11:14:44 PM] Rich Zamora: no...lol
[7/28/2013 11:14:48 PM] Rich Zamora: are you drinking?
[7/28/2013 11:15:13 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yes!
[7/28/2013 11:15:20 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i thought i said that earlier
[7/28/2013 11:15:22 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: mehbag
[7/28/2013 11:15:24 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: my bad* wow
[7/28/2013 11:15:30 PM] Rich Zamora: no you didn't ..
[7/28/2013 11:15:34 PM] Rich Zamora: what are you drinking?
[7/28/2013 11:15:55 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: wine, im a cabernet boy
[7/28/2013 11:15:59 PM] Rich Zamora: i love win
[7/28/2013 11:16:04 PM] Rich Zamora: we have some great wineries in the area
[7/28/2013 11:16:10 PM] Rich Zamora: but i know there are some great ones in cali too
[7/28/2013 11:16:37 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yesyesyes, but i general go for whichever has the most clever name out of the 2-7 dollar bottles. lol
[7/28/2013 11:16:47 PM] Rich Zamora: hahaha
[7/28/2013 11:16:54 PM] Rich Zamora: that's a good way to choose
[7/28/2013 11:17:04 PM] Rich Zamora: i go with the most alcohol levvel
[7/28/2013 11:17:05 PM] Rich Zamora: lol
[7/28/2013 11:17:15 PM] Rich Zamora: trader joe;s wine!!!!
[7/28/2013 11:17:19 PM] Rich Zamora: cheap and good!
[7/28/2013 11:17:36 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: yes! do you have grocery store outlets?? lol
[7/28/2013 11:17:55 PM] Rich Zamora: there are some here
[7/28/2013 11:18:00 PM] Rich Zamora: but no trader joes nearby me
[7/28/2013 11:18:05 PM] Rich Zamora: the nearest is in tucson
[7/28/2013 11:18:29 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: try GSO--soooo cheap and funny brand names
[7/28/2013 11:18:51 PM] Rich Zamora: GSO?
[7/28/2013 11:19:07 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: grocery store outlet! lol
[7/28/2013 11:19:27 PM] Rich Zamora: oh
[7/28/2013 11:19:28 PM] Rich Zamora: LOL
[7/28/2013 11:19:38 PM] Rich Zamora: haha, i have to look for one
[7/28/2013 11:19:44 PM] Rich Zamora: we dont have that here in NM i dont think
[7/28/2013 11:20:14 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: missing out!!
[7/28/2013 11:20:22 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: im drinking Cleavage Creek right now
[7/28/2013 11:20:22 PM] Rich Zamora: i bet haha
[7/28/2013 11:20:25 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: busty woman on the front
[7/28/2013 11:20:27 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: 3 bucks!
[7/28/2013 11:20:30 PM] Rich Zamora: oooh
[7/28/2013 11:20:35 PM] Rich Zamora: next time my friend goes back to cali
[7/28/2013 11:20:39 PM] Rich Zamora: i'll asl him to get me some
[7/28/2013 11:20:50 PM] Rich Zamora: i have a friend here who goes to San Diego on a regular basis
[7/28/2013 11:20:55 PM] Rich Zamora: and brings me trader joes wine
[7/28/2013 11:21:08 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: nice!!
[7/28/2013 11:21:12 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: everyone is online!
[7/28/2013 11:21:13 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: well
[7/28/2013 11:21:15 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lots of poeple
[7/28/2013 11:21:17 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: billy and tj got on!
[7/28/2013 11:21:32 PM] Rich Zamora: let's have a chat
[7/28/2013 11:21:34 PM] Rich Zamora: room
[7/28/2013 11:21:38 PM] Rich Zamora: do people still do that?
[7/28/2013 11:23:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: umm... idk... i dont want to look like the awkward gangly kids at the dance...
[7/28/2013 11:23:28 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: idk im in! lol
[7/28/2013 11:23:31 PM] Rich Zamora: LMAO!
[7/28/2013 11:31:07 PM] Rich Zamora: how long have you beein in a relationship?
[7/28/2013 11:31:55 PM] Rich Zamora: you have to partiicpate in my dissertation research once i start collecting data
[7/28/2013 11:31:56 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: just over a couple years... maybe 2.25 years?
[7/28/2013 11:32:01 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol id love to!
[7/28/2013 11:32:01 PM] Rich Zamora: that's good!
[7/28/2013 11:32:12 PM] Rich Zamora: i'll tell you more about it later
[7/28/2013 11:32:24 PM] Rich Zamora: i'm proposing my research this august so once i get that done i'll start data collection
[7/28/2013 11:33:11 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: good--keep me around and i'll be at your beckon call
[7/28/2013 11:34:51 PM] Rich Zamora: lol
[7/28/2013 11:35:02 PM] Rich Zamora: keep you around where?
[7/28/2013 11:35:16 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: the foot of the bed??
[7/28/2013 11:37:05 PM] Rich Zamora: maybe
[7/28/2013 11:37:16 PM] Rich Zamora: just sit
[7/28/2013 11:37:20 PM] Rich Zamora: and play nice
[7/28/2013 11:37:24 PM] Rich Zamora: that's an order
[7/28/2013 11:37:33 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: mk, i get restless though!
[7/28/2013 11:38:32 PM] Rich Zamora: well you can be creative
[7/28/2013 11:38:56 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: theres only so many things to play with!
[7/28/2013 11:40:08 PM] Rich Zamora: hey
[7/28/2013 11:40:09 PM] Rich Zamora: not my problem
[7/28/2013 11:40:35 PM] Kurtis Roddewig:
[7/28/2013 11:41:25 PM] Rich Zamora: aww don't pout. not your face
[7/28/2013 11:41:52 PM] Kurtis Roddewig:
[7/28/2013 11:41:54 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: fixed it!
[7/28/2013 11:42:42 PM] Rich Zamora: good
[7/28/2013 11:42:47 PM] Rich Zamora: that suits you more
[7/28/2013 11:43:35 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: you have a nice smile
[7/28/2013 11:43:40 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: (refers to skype picture)
[7/28/2013 11:43:44 PM] Rich Zamora: oh...
[7/28/2013 11:43:50 PM] Rich Zamora: thanks
[7/28/2013 11:43:52 PM] Rich Zamora: i get shy
[7/28/2013 11:43:53 PM] Rich Zamora: anyways
[7/28/2013 11:44:28 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol whatever
[7/28/2013 11:44:30 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: you do not
[7/28/2013 11:44:53 PM] Rich Zamora: yes i do haha
[7/28/2013 11:44:57 PM] Rich Zamora: you have no idea
[7/28/2013 11:45:01 PM] Rich Zamora: but thank you for the compliment
[7/28/2013 11:47:02 PM] Rich Zamora: i worked with high schoolers before
[7/28/2013 11:47:09 PM] Rich Zamora: i did some clinical hours at a high school one semester
[7/28/2013 11:47:17 PM] Rich Zamora: mostly did groups and prevention skills on bullying
[7/28/2013 11:47:27 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: thats interesting!
[7/28/2013 11:47:39 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: that was one of my motivations for becoming a teacher
[7/28/2013 11:47:55 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: to really reenforce a system of justice and equality in a school
[7/28/2013 11:48:06 PM] Rich Zamora: YES
[7/28/2013 11:48:12 PM] Rich Zamora: #socialjustice
[7/28/2013 11:48:14 PM] Rich Zamora: !!!!
[7/28/2013 11:49:12 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: its been fairly successful so far, have way too much fun with the kids
[7/28/2013 11:49:20 PM] Rich Zamora: nice!
[7/28/2013 11:49:30 PM] Rich Zamora: i think it's good that you love what you do
[7/28/2013 11:49:39 PM] Rich Zamora: it's one component that makes a job fun
[7/28/2013 11:49:44 PM] Rich Zamora: being passionate about it
[7/28/2013 11:50:26 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: so far!! only my second group of classes this fall
[7/28/2013 11:50:28 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: wish me luck
[7/28/2013 11:50:52 PM] Rich Zamora: you'll be fine
[7/28/2013 11:50:57 PM] Rich Zamora: regulation hotties like you do well
[7/28/2013 11:51:06 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol i have to dress very "up"
[7/28/2013 11:51:10 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: to distance myself from the kids
[7/28/2013 11:51:58 PM] Rich Zamora: of course
[7/28/2013 11:52:19 PM] Rich Zamora: when i taught intro to psych in 2010 my first year as a doc student
[7/28/2013 11:52:27 PM] Rich Zamora: they taught i was a freshmen
[7/28/2013 11:52:32 PM] Rich Zamora: then i saw how young they looked!
[7/28/2013 11:52:36 PM] Rich Zamora: kids now a days!
[7/28/2013 11:52:57 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: i will be young and beautiful forever
[7/28/2013 11:52:59 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: (mantra)
[7/28/2013 11:53:04 PM] Rich Zamora: oooh
[7/28/2013 11:53:06 PM] Rich Zamora: look at you
[7/28/2013 11:53:25 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: although, south east asian geners are much better for youthfulness
[7/28/2013 11:53:27 PM] Rich Zamora: i'll be young looking forever...i'm asian lol
[7/28/2013 11:53:34 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: my boyfirned is a japanese/chinese hybrid
[7/28/2013 11:53:37 PM] Rich Zamora: i was thinking the same thing!
[7/28/2013 11:53:42 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: and looks 12 at times i swear
[7/28/2013 11:54:04 PM] Rich Zamora: i like how you used the word hybrid
[7/28/2013 11:54:28 PM] Rich Zamora: are you white/hispanic mix?
[7/28/2013 11:54:42 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: nono just white
[7/28/2013 11:54:45 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: que aburrito, si?
[7/28/2013 11:55:26 PM] Rich Zamora: no intiende
[7/28/2013 11:55:39 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: im boring lol
[7/28/2013 11:55:42 PM] Rich Zamora: HAHAHA
[7/28/2013 11:55:45 PM] Rich Zamora: please
[7/28/2013 11:55:47 PM] Rich Zamora: you're cultured
[7/28/2013 11:56:32 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: ONLY thanks to my Filipino boys!!
[7/28/2013 11:56:33 PM] Kurtis Roddewig:
[7/28/2013 11:56:44 PM] Rich Zamora: and your japanese/chinese hybrid
[7/28/2013 11:56:45 PM] Rich Zamora: hahahahaha
[7/28/2013 11:57:28 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol!! hes whiter-acting than me i promise
[7/28/2013 11:57:39 PM] Rich Zamora: oh one of those
[7/28/2013 11:57:41 PM] Rich Zamora: lol jk
[7/28/2013 11:59:06 PM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol hes a sweetie, lemme find pictures
[7/28/2013 11:59:14 PM] Rich Zamora: yes of you two
[12:00:00 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: www.facebook.com/kurtis.roddewig
[12:00:05 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: well thats just my facebook, but thats us!
[12:03:24 AM] Rich Zamora: OMG
[12:03:27 AM] Rich Zamora: you guys are the cutest!
[12:03:33 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: WE AREEEEEE
[12:03:36 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol
[12:03:39 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: its all i have, i gloat
[12:04:11 AM] Rich Zamora: LOL
[12:04:16 AM] Rich Zamora: whatever
[12:04:28 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: dontchu whatever me!!
[12:05:25 AM] Rich Zamora: oh please
[12:05:32 AM] Rich Zamora: whatcha gonna do gurl
[12:05:36 AM] Rich Zamora: ala aaryn
[12:05:55 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i havent watched for like a week!
[12:05:58 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: whod she nominate?
[12:09:24 AM] Rich Zamora: howard and spencer
[12:10:07 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: oh good!!
[12:10:14 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i want all the chicks to stay around
[12:10:29 AM] Rich Zamora: elissa, helen, and candice all the way for me
[12:10:39 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: lmao i love gina marie
[12:10:42 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: shes an effing mess
[12:11:10 AM] Rich Zamora: that she is
[12:11:40 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: but i still want her to be happy... like she met a nice, smart, attractive guy
[12:11:48 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: and she must know how much of a train wreck she is
[12:11:52 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: and she got attached and cant let go
[12:11:53 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: endearing
[12:12:12 AM] Rich Zamora: well
[12:12:16 AM] Rich Zamora: can you relate?
[12:12:20 AM] Rich Zamora: kidding haha
[12:12:49 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i can be like... alanis moresett wreckage level at times
[12:12:50 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol
[12:16:09 AM] Rich Zamora: i bet
[12:16:14 AM] Rich Zamora: we all have those days lol
[12:16:32 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: or months... years... something like that
[12:16:33 AM] Kurtis Roddewig:
[12:17:29 AM] Rich Zamora: yes, i agree
[12:17:36 AM] Rich Zamora: i deal wth the mess up follks haha
[12:17:40 AM] Rich Zamora: so you want to hear something nerdy?
[12:18:04 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: always
[12:18:17 AM] Rich Zamora: ok
[12:18:21 AM] Rich Zamora: so this is nerd alert
[12:18:47 AM] Rich Zamora: the big picture of what i want to do for my research line...i want to come up with a theory or a model for coupls therapy for gay couples
[12:18:53 AM] Rich Zamora: because
[12:19:11 AM] Rich Zamora: all of the research in relationships with gay couples are based on heterosexual models
[12:19:12 AM] Rich Zamora: and theories
[12:19:35 AM] Rich Zamora: and our nation is becoming more non traditional
[12:19:46 AM] Rich Zamora: i'm putting a prevention twist on my research
[12:20:01 AM] Rich Zamora: also---there are so many different factors in gay men relationships compared to heterosexual coupls
[12:20:07 AM] Rich Zamora: like level of outness,
[12:20:15 AM] Rich Zamora: amongst other things
[12:20:18 AM] Rich Zamora: so yeah
[12:20:34 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: ok so youre going to have couples, and what are you testing for?
[12:20:39 AM] Rich Zamora: oh
[12:20:45 AM] Rich Zamora: well notfor my dissertation
[12:20:52 AM] Rich Zamora: that's the long run big picture
[12:21:01 AM] Rich Zamora: i'm working on pieces to the puzzle
[12:21:11 AM] Rich Zamora: my masters thesis was on love styles and romantic attachment on gay men
[12:21:21 AM] Rich Zamora: it's published!
[12:21:40 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: oh really! give me a 3 senetence summary of your findings
[12:21:51 AM] Rich Zamora: for my dissertation, i want to look at the role of respect and gay specific stressors and how it affects relationship satisfaction of gay men in romantic relationships
[12:23:21 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: which kinds of stressors are you looking at? like the same things as heteorsexual counples and comparing them?
[12:23:48 AM] Rich Zamora: oh im not comparic
[12:23:54 AM] Rich Zamora: because that's the literature have been
[12:23:58 AM] Rich Zamora: and i'm stemming away from that
[12:24:03 AM] Rich Zamora: here's an abstract of my thesis
[12:24:13 AM] Rich Zamora: The purpose of this study was to explore the relationship between love styles and romantic attachment styles in self-identified gay men. Participants (n = 72) completed the Experiences in Close Relationships - Revised (Fraley, Walker, & Brennan, 2000) and the Love Attitudes Scale Short Form (LAS-SF; Hendrick, Hendrick, & Dicke 1998). Results indicated that all six love styles were significantly predictive of anxious and avoidant romantic attachment. A series of multiple regressions were performed using love styles as predictors of both avoidant and anxious attachment styles separately. Examination of the Beta weights indicated that Eros and Mania Love styles were unique predictors of anxious and avoidant romantic attachment for the gay men in this sample. Implications for counseling are highlighted.
[12:24:35 AM] Rich Zamora: Eros love styles are passionate lovers and Mania are manic lovers, those who are possesive
[12:24:55 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol so outlook not fabulous for gay men
[12:25:26 AM] Rich Zamora: The results of the regression analyses indicate that gay men who reported more constant reassurance of being loved (Mania) were less likely to be anxious in their romantic relationships. In addition, gay men who identified themselves as more passionate or erotic (Eros) were more likely to be avoidant in their romantic relationships. Both of these findings diverge from previous research with two heterosexual samples (Fricker & Moore, 2002; Levy & Davis, 1988). Gay men who were more involved with “game-playing” love (Ludus) were less likely to be avoidant in their relationships, which is in contrast to previous studies with undergraduate heterosexual individuals (Fricker & Moore, 2002; Levy & Davis, 1988). While some researchers have found Agape love to be related to avoidant attachment in heterosexual individuals (Levy & Davis, 1988), Agape love was not related to avoidant attachment with this sample. However, Agape love was related to anxious attachment in this sample. Therefore, gay men who were more selfless and altruistic in their love styles were less likely to feel anxious in romantic relationships.
[12:25:35 AM] Rich Zamora: there's some discussion in lamence terms
[12:25:48 AM] Rich Zamora: that's the problem, more of the research have focused on negative thigns on gay relationships
[12:25:56 AM] Rich Zamora: but my focus is on positive psychology
[12:26:02 AM] Rich Zamora: sorry if this is boring you
[12:26:38 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: no! not at all
[12:26:46 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: its fun to think of my relationship in the shadow of this
[12:27:00 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: we used to be very paranoid... welll me more paranoid and he more possessive
[12:27:05 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: but have fallen into a more confortable routine
[12:27:23 AM] Rich Zamora: oh good
[12:27:48 AM] Rich Zamora: i mean good that you're comfortable now
[12:28:16 AM] Rich Zamora: but the theory of respect towards your partner is under studied
[12:28:27 AM] Rich Zamora: and i think that respect plays a big role
[12:28:33 AM] Rich Zamora: well that's my theory right now
[12:28:39 AM] Rich Zamora: my research findings could be a bust
[12:29:06 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: totally... which is hard in the light of genered relationships that usually showcase the girl being much less respected than the guy, at least in media
[12:29:18 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i dont know ive done zer oresearch fo course but thought a lot about these things
[12:29:29 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: because i want this to work out, i want to be happy with jeremy for the rest of our lives
[12:29:33 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: which is scary but exciting
[12:29:58 AM] Rich Zamora: YES exactly
[12:30:13 AM] Rich Zamora: you're good!
[12:30:25 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: oh yeah!?
[12:30:52 AM] Rich Zamora: for my dissertation
[12:31:01 AM] Rich Zamora: to answer your question about gay specific stressors
[12:31:03 AM] Rich Zamora: Stress related to heterosexism in one’s environment will be measured using the Measure of Gay-Related Stress (MOGS; Lewis, Derlega, Berndt, Morris, & Rose, 2002). The MOGS is a 39-item measure that assesses gay men and lesbians level of stress that is due to their sexual orientation. For the purpose of the study, only 14 items are going to be used that are in the three subscales called: Family Reaction, Family Reactions to my Partner, and Visibility with Family and Friends.
[12:31:12 AM] Rich Zamora: that's how i am defining it
[12:31:33 AM] Rich Zamora: so like family suport and friends support
[12:31:38 AM] Rich Zamora: that could add to stress in the relationship
[12:31:40 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: okay so the added pressure of being "out" and being in a relationship
[12:31:45 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: so the public aspect of the relationship
[12:31:49 AM] Rich Zamora: or could be a buffer if they are supportive
[12:31:49 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: that makes sense
[12:31:54 AM] Rich Zamora: YES
[12:31:59 AM] Rich Zamora: you're smart lol
[12:32:10 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: I IZ SO SMARTZ
[12:33:35 AM] Rich Zamora: hahaha
[12:33:42 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: are you looking at infedelity rates between the gays?
[12:33:56 AM] Rich Zamora: not with this research project
[12:33:58 AM] Rich Zamora: i want to! lol
[12:34:01 AM] Rich Zamora: for future studies but
[12:34:05 AM] Rich Zamora: i ahve to graduate hahahaha
[12:34:20 AM] Rich Zamora: but i did a research on monogamous and non monogamous relationships
[12:34:21 AM] Rich Zamora: with gay men
[12:34:35 AM] Rich Zamora: it is really interesting
[12:34:39 AM] Rich Zamora: we are getting ready to publish that one
[12:34:39 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: god open relationships seem like a train wrech
[12:34:42 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: wreck
[12:34:44 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: waiting to happen
[12:34:46 AM] Rich Zamora: irt is
[12:34:50 AM] Rich Zamora: but you know whats interesting
[12:35:01 AM] Rich Zamora: those who both have agreed to have that kind of relationship and communicate it to each other
[12:35:03 AM] Rich Zamora: were happier
[12:35:15 AM] Rich Zamora: than those who keep it a secret from each other
[12:35:17 AM] Rich Zamora: we did interviews
[12:35:24 AM] Rich Zamora: it was so interesting
[12:35:34 AM] Rich Zamora: because the key was..communciation and reasons for doing it
[12:35:38 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i could see how that would work, honesty and trust is so imprtant, but i bet truly monogomous pairings were much happier
[12:35:43 AM] Rich Zamora: YES!
[12:35:56 AM] Rich Zamora: so we controlled for their communication pattern and honesty levels
[12:36:00 AM] Rich Zamora: it was so interesting
[12:36:40 AM] Rich Zamora: im such a nerd
[12:36:42 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: honestly this is a super important area to be explored, implications of studies like these will have an effect on the way elementary school teachers address gener and relationships
[12:36:51 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i like these kinds of things too, it works here
[12:36:59 AM] Rich Zamora: yes!!!
[12:37:10 AM] Rich Zamora: and what i want to do too is
[12:37:15 AM] Rich Zamora: to create prevention programs
[12:37:30 AM] Rich Zamora: that could make gay romantic relationships healthier
[12:37:54 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: that would be good, but i also thing more overall exposure in the media will help that
[12:38:06 AM] Rich Zamora: i can't wait till i finish school and start my career because ill have more time and more resourcs for such things
[12:38:13 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: because by definition a gay relationship has not been "normal" so it makes sense for these weird trends to develop
[12:38:20 AM] Rich Zamora: I KNOW!!!!
[12:38:26 AM] Rich Zamora: this whole not normal and normal thing
[12:38:32 AM] Rich Zamora: we're slowly improviing
[12:38:35 AM] Rich Zamora: but we need to move faster
[12:38:58 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i feel like its cascading at this point
[12:39:15 AM] Rich Zamora: it really depends though geographically
[12:39:26 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: have you ever been to the Pink Dot thing in the Philippines
[12:39:33 AM] Rich Zamora: believe it or not, when i was living in oklahoma, i experienced prejudice from the gay community
[12:39:38 AM] Rich Zamora: and some internalized homophobia and racism
[12:39:49 AM] Rich Zamora: no i have nevver been
[12:40:01 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: it looks so cute, i want to go sometime (/aside)
[12:40:13 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: and yes... i dont think i ever want to visit the South lol
[12:40:34 AM] Rich Zamora: so when i was living in oklahoma, i went to this gay organization, they were all white, and obviously i am not, i did not feel welcomed and some folks came to me and told me that they would never date soeone otside their race because "thats just wrong"
[12:40:47 AM] Rich Zamora: i was so surprised!
[12:40:54 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: LOL isnt it funny?? When you're accepted how easy it is to lose perspective
[12:41:12 AM] Rich Zamora: but i want to look at the role of culture in interracial dating in lesbian adn gay relationship[s
[12:41:17 AM] Rich Zamora: YES!
[12:41:25 AM] Rich Zamora: i was like ..."seriously?"
[12:41:30 AM] Rich Zamora: from the gay commmunity, it was so weird
[12:41:33 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: good! me and jerm can help you there too
[12:41:52 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i really hate the "fad" or "trend" of the rice queen/potato queen
[12:41:52 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: thing
[12:42:01 AM] Rich Zamora: but so remember, i was telling you i dated Matt,,not sure if you knew but he's Deaf
[12:42:08 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: thats going right now... it really devalues and belittles my and jerms relationship among other gay people
[12:42:15 AM] Rich Zamora: OMG my ex called me a potato queen lol
[12:42:24 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: even though i havent ever dated and asian person prior to him and really just love him because he is him
[12:42:36 AM] Rich Zamora: yeah i understand
[12:42:40 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: like i see other white-asian couples and get kind of upset
[12:42:45 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: because i know in a way it devalues mine
[12:42:47 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: which is stupid
[12:42:51 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: but true
[12:42:56 AM] Rich Zamora: eah i know
[12:43:11 AM] Rich Zamora: but what lead me to become interested in understanding culture in relationships because
[12:43:23 AM] Rich Zamora: when i was dating Matt I had to understand the Deaf culture
[12:43:39 AM] Rich Zamora: and how it was different from both my filipino culture
[12:43:46 AM] Rich Zamora: and Hearing culture! i becaome so aware
[12:43:59 AM] Rich Zamora: it was so interesting
[12:44:03 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i bet... were you fluent in sign language prior to dating him or did you learn as you went?
[12:44:23 AM] Rich Zamora: no, i was not fluent
[12:44:29 AM] Rich Zamora: we literally used pen and paper
[12:44:39 AM] Rich Zamora: and he read lips but he had to learn how i spoke to learn my ways
[12:44:52 AM] Rich Zamora: but i became fluent eventually
[12:45:02 AM] Rich Zamora: i also worked with Deaf kids
[12:45:37 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: i bet that wouldve been tough!
[12:46:00 AM] Rich Zamora: yeah especially when communication is one of the key components of a successful relationship
[12:46:08 AM] Rich Zamora: definitely a learning experience
[12:46:39 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: kk we need to talk lots more about this because i do NOT think its nerdy, these are things i think about regularly
[12:46:44 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: im goign to go to bed for now though
[12:46:51 AM] Rich Zamora: good night kurtis
[12:46:59 AM] Rich Zamora: yes, it is good to chat about this
[12:47:02 AM] Rich Zamora: i like learning lol
[12:47:14 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: I LIKE YOUR FACE
[12:47:16 AM] Rich Zamora: great meeting you
[12:47:19 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: lol kk nightnight
[12:47:21 AM] Kurtis Roddewig: you too!
I knew we'd get along just fine!! He seems really nice, good to see folks who played ORG back in the days!